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The player can become Thane of all the Holds in Skyrim. The standard formula for each hold is to complete a specific quest or objective for the Jarl and then help out a specific number of citizens within the hold, either by doing quests, miscellaneous objectives, or helping out some other way.
Becoming the Thane of a Hold carries several perks, including the ability to bribe guards into ignoring minor crimes.
Eastmarch (Capital: Windhelm)
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Imperial Legion Questline
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After completing the Reunification of Skyrim quest, Brunwulf Free-Winter will become Jarl of Windhelm. The Dragonborn must speak to Brunwulf, and Brunwulf will offer the title of Thane contingent on the Dragonborn helping five people of Windhelm and purchasing Hjerim from Brunwulf's steward. After the Dragonborn completes these two objectives, Brunwulf will grant the Dragonborn the title of Thane, give him a leveled weapon (type unknown) of Eastmarch, and appoint a housecarl to the Dragonborn.
Stormcloak questline
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After progressing through the questline Liberation of Skyrim: Liberate Falkreath Hold, the Dragonborn will receive the option to become Thane. This is done by selecting the "My Jarl, is there anything further you need?" conversation option. Ulfric Stormcloak will respond that there is a place in his court for a new Thane, but the title can only be given to one known throughout the hold and that owns property in Windhelm.
Regardless of the questline followed, there are two requirements to becoming Thane of Eastmarch:
- Purchase Hjerim from Jorleif for 12,000 gold.
- Assist five citizens of Eastmarch.
There are several easy ways to assist the people of Eastmarch:
- Giving a gold coin to either Silda the Unseen or Angrenor Once-Honored. Note that you can give a septim to each, on separate occasions (after the perk wears off), and that will count as two people helped.
- Delivering Adonato Leotelli's book to Giraud Gemane in Solitude.
- Giving mead to Torbjorn Shatter-Shield
- Beating up Rolff Stone-Fist in the inn.
- Retrieving Shahvee's Amulet from a radiant location for Shahvee. You also receive free Light Armor and Lockpick training as a reward.
- Getting better wages for Argonian dock workers by talking to Scouts-Many-Marshes.
- Stealing twice distilled skooma for Stands-In-Shallows.
- Retrieving Queen Freydis's Sword for Oengul War-Anvil.
- Planting Viola's Gold Ring ring for Revyn Sadri.
- Clearing out a radiant location of bandits for Brunwulf Free-Winter.
- Gathering ten bear pelts for Temba Wide-arms
Note: While completing Blood on the Ice is not a prerequisite of becoming Thane of Eastmarch, the quest will automatically start upon the purchase of Hjerim. Also note that if you join the Legion in the Civil War line, then you must do Brunwulf's bandit quest to become Thane anyway. That's his "favor" that all the Jarls have you do to become thane in their hold (sans Balgruuf). If you are a Legionnare, then it's convenient to kill two birds with one stone by doing his bandit quest as part of your helping five people.
Falkreath Hold (Capital: Falkreath)
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Upon speaking to Jarl Siddgeir, he will request that the player obtains a bottle of Black-Briar Mead for him. If the Dragonborn waits to reach level ten without visiting Falkreath, the Jarl will request to see the Dragonborn by sending a letter.
Note: The starting quest for the Jarl to obtain a drink is a "radiant" quest that cannot be started if the Dragonborn is already on one of the following quests considered to be part of Rare Gifts.
- Getting the book The Mirror for captain Aldis in Solitude
- Getting a Mammoth Tusk for Ysolda in Whiterun
- Getting the book Song of the Alchemists for Lami in Morthal
- Getting the book Night falls on Sentinel for Rustleif in Dawnstar
- Getting an Amulet of Arkay for Torbjorn Shatter-Shield in Windhelm
After obtaining the Jarl's drink, he will give the Dragonborn a quest to kill an assigned Bandit Leader. Upon completing this objective, the offer of becoming Thane will be made.
It is also possible to receive a letter where Siddgeir wants to talk to the Dragonborn.
Assist three citizens of Falkreath Hold. This can be done in several easy ways, including:
- Selling vegetables at Corpselight Farm.
- Delivering ashes to the Hall of the Dead for Thadgeir (Dengeir's house).
- Retrieving Runil's Journal from an ambient location.
- Selling firewood at Half-Moon Mill.
- Investing in a store.
- Stealing a private letter from Lod for Dengeir.
- Completing A Daedra's Best Friend.
- Completing Ill Met By Moonlight.
Note: The quest objective for the Jarl will be different depending on civil war quests.
Note: If the Hearthfire expansion is installed (and enabled), the Dragonborn may receive a letter at any time early in the game from Siddgeir requesting a meeting at his Longhouse in Falkreath. If this is the case, if the Dragonborn goes to meet him, the first part of this quest will be skipped entirely in favor of the next part of the quest to become Thane.
Haafingar (Capital: Solitude)
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Talk to Falk Firebeard in the Blue Palace and he will give the quest The Man Who Cried Wolf, investigating the lights and sounds coming out of Wolf Skull Cave, which is located in the mountains west of Solitude. After completing the quest, talk to Falk again for a reward. Then speak directly to the Jarl herself and she will thank the player and assign one more task.
She will ask that Torygg’s War Horn be placed on a Shrine of Talos as a tribute to her late husband. Take the War Horn to the specified Shrine and place it at the foot of the statue of Talos, then return to Elisif. She will invite the Dragonborn to become a Thane, but only after meeting the requirements.
- Purchase Proudspire Manor for 25,000 gold
- Assist five citizens of Haafingar
There are several easy ways to assist the people, including:
- Asking Aldis for information about Angeline Morrard's daughter.
- Giving Potema's skull to Styrr during the quest The Wolf Queen Awakened.
- Delivering the Stros M'Kai Rum to Falk Firebeard for Sorex Vinius.
- Talking to Corpulus Vinius about letting Belrand off his debts.
- Talking to Irnskar Ironhand about letting Octieve San off his debts
- Retrieving Noster's Helmet for Noster Eagle-Eye.
- Chopping and Selling Firewood to Hjorunn at Solitude Sawmill.
- Giving a coin to a beggar like Noster Eagle-Eye.
- Wearing Radiant Rainment Fine Clothes when meeting the queen for Radiant Rainment
- Selling vegetables to Katla at Katla's Farm.
- Finding the book The Mirror for Aldis.
- Releasing shipment from East Empire Trading Company for Evette San.
Once this has been done, return to Jarl Elisif and become a Thane of Haafingar. You will then be given the Blade of Haafingar.
Some time after Wolf Skull Cave has been cleaned out and the player has leveled up at least once, a courier arrives with a letter from Falk requesting a meeting. This initiates the quest to hunt down Potema's spirit, The Wolf Queen Awakened. It is not required to become Thane, but completing it counts toward the total of helping citizens in Solitude.
Hjaalmarch (Capital: Morthal)
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Becoming Thane of Hjaalmarch is fairly straightforward. First investigate the house that burned down, and then complete the subsequent quests. The grateful Jarl will say that she'd be happy to make the Dragonborn a Thane once "known through her Hold." This translates into helping three different people, most of whom can be found in Morthal.
- Idgrod the Younger asks that a note be delivered to Danica Pure-Spring in Whiterun.
- Challenge and beat Benor in fisticuffs or drop armor near him then talk to him and select the option that lets him take the armor, allowing you to recruit him as a follower.
- Chop firewood and sell it to Jorgen at the mill.
- Chop firewood and sell it to Hroggar at the mill.
- Deliver a message from Gorm to Captain Aldis in Solitude.
- Find a copy of Song of the Alchemists for Lami.
- Sell ore at Rockwallow Mine.
The title also includes being awarded the Blade of Hjaalmarch.
The Pale (Capital: Dawnstar)
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Thane of The Pale is obtained by completing the following tasks: The quest Waking Nightmare is begun by talking to Erandur in the Windpeak Inn. Then complete three minor quests.
The player must be level 22 to obtain the quest to kill a giant, which then leads onto to the allowance to become Thane (after completing the three minor quests)
- Give a drink to Karl, one of the miners.
- Sell iron ore to Beitild (Unless already killed during Contract: Kill Beitild).
- Sell quicksilver ore to Leigelf.
- Bring Night Falls on Sentinel to Rustleif or invest 500 gold in his shop.
- Fetch Fine cut Void Salts for Captain Wayfinder.
- Fetch the Ring of Pure Mixtures for Frida in The Mortar and Pestle or invest 500 gold in her shop.
- Sell firewood to Aeri at Anga's Mill far south east of The Pale (Unless killed during Contract: Kill Ennodius Papius).
- Report Cicero to the guard for Vantus Loreius outside Loreius Farm.
The Blade of the Pale is awarded along with the title.
- An eighth quest for the local museum also exists, but it does not count towards the quest.
- When selling firewood to Aeri, she will ask that a letter be delivered to the Jarl; this does not count towards the quest.
The Reach (Capital: Markarth)
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To become Thane of Markarth, the Dragonborn needs to kill groups of Forsworn for the Jarl and his steward. Then the Dragonborn must retrieve Hrolfdir's Shield (this quest is only given when the player is level 20 or higher). The Dragonborn must then help five citizens of Markarth and own Vlindrel Hall to become Thane.
- Completing the quest Mourning Never Comes.
- Deliver spiced beef to Voada for Banning
- Steal the Dibella statue for Degaine.
- Find The Last Scabbard of Akrash for Ghorza.
- Complete The Forsworn Conspiracy killing Madanach in the mine.
- Clear the hall of the dead for Brother Verulus.
- The second part of The Book of Love Quest.
- Kill Nimhe for Calcelmo.
- Deliver the Stallion's Potion to Raerek for Bothela.
- Retrieve Lisbet's stolen Dibella statue.
- Deliver a ring to Calcelmo for Kerah.
- Talk to Mulush gro-Shugurz for Omluag
- Retrieving a Daedra Heart for Moth gro-Bagol.
Alternatively the Dragonborn can side with the Stormcloaks and take The Reach by force through the Civil War quests. This will change the Jarl to Thongvor Silver-Blood and the Dragonborn will immediately be granted the permission to purchase property and become Thane without doing the quest for Igmund's shield or helping out the people of Markarth. The above is also possible if the Dragonborn negotiated the exchange of Markarth during Season Unending. The Blade of the Reach is awarded along with the title.
The Rift (Capital: Riften)
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Speak to the Argonian named Wujeeta in the fishery on the docks outside the city. Give her the Potion of Healing that she asks for, then ask her about her skooma dealer. Speak to the Jarl to begin the Skooma Trade Quest. After completion, the offer of becoming Thane will be made.
- Purchase Honeyside for 8,000 gold (can be purchased with only 5,000).
- Assist the citizens of the Rift.
There are several quests that can be completed to achieve this goal. They include:
- Help Shadr - Talk to Sapphire in Riften.
- Help Svana Far-Shield - Talk to Indaryn, Bolli, Hofgrir Horse-Crusher in Riften.
- Help Harrald - Delivery from Balimund in.
- Help Hafjorg - Delivery from Filnjar in Shor's Stone.
- Help Hofgrir Horse-Crusher - challenge him in a brawl.
- Help Alessandra - Delivery to Andurs in Whiterun.
- Help Bolli - Delivery to Kleppr in Markarth.
- Help Wylandriah - Delivery from Ivarstead, Winterhold, & Windhelm.
- Help Talen-Jei - Find him three Flawless Amethysts.
- Help Marise Aravel - Find her five Ice Wraith Teeth.
- Help Ingun Black-Briar - Find her Deathbell (20), Nightshade (20), Nirnroot (20).
- Help Madesi - Find him Gold Ore, Mammoth Tusk, and two Flawless Sapphires.
- Help Balimund - Find him ten Fire Salts.
- Help Snilf - Donation.
- Help Edda - Donation.
- Help Anuriel/Hemming Black-Briar - Bounty Quests (Unlimited).
- Help Dravin - Quest Dravin's Bow.
- Help Brand-Shei - Quest Wreck of The Pride of Tel Vos.
- Help Mjoll the Lioness - Quest Grimsever.
- Help From-Deepest-Fathoms - Quest Unfathomable Depths.
Whiterun Hold (Capital: Whiterun)
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The Dragonborn becomes Thane of Whiterun as part of the main quest. After killing the dragon at the Western Watch Tower and revealing that the player is the Dragonborn, the Jarl becomes eager to dub them Thane of Whiterun. After becoming Thane of Whiterun the Jarl will award the Axe of Whiterun.
Siding with the Stormcloaks in the Civil War places Vignar Gray-Mane on the throne as Jarl of Whiterun and the Dragonborn's status as Thane is revoked. To become Thane again, the Dragonborn must assist five citizens of Whiterun and purchase Breezehome, (if this hasn't already been done). Speak to Vignar after he is promoted to Jarl about becoming thane. He'll award a Blade of Whiterun and grant the player the title of Thane again.
Winterhold (Capital: Winterhold)
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Retrieve the Helm of Winterhold from a radiant location for the Jarl Korir, and then help three people in the hold.
This can be done by
- Give Ranmir at The Frozen Hearth Inn a drink, either Ale or Mead.
- Drop any piece of Apparel from player's Inventory inside The Frozen Hearth inn and let someone pick it up, (it is likely that the piece will not actually be taken and can be picked up later).
- Help Haran convince Ranmir to pay his bar tab.
- Invest in Birna's Oddments.
- Steal Nelacar's staff for Malur Seloth.
- Sell Ore at Whistling Mine.
- Cleanse the focal points for Drevis Neloren at the College of Winterhold.
- Completing the quest First Lessons at the College of Winterhold.
The Blade of Winterhold will be awarded, along with the player's new title.
Trivia
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- Giving a coin to a beggar counts as assisting a citizen.
- Dropping an item and granting an NPC's request to take it counts as assisting a citizen.
- Some quests do NOT count as assisting a citizen, even if it seems it should.
- Investing in a shop using the Investor perk from the Speech skill tree counts as helping a citizen.
- Defeating a Dragon inside any town will count towards helping citizens.
- Killing a follower who has turned into a Werewolf will also count. This seems to work with all the Companions.
- Helping a blacksmith in any town counts. (Can only be done once in the game.)
- Helping one NPC on two different missions will only count as assisting one citizen.
- Brawling with a citizen counts toward helping the citizens.
- Brunwulf Free-Winter and Ulfric Stormcloak are two of four Jarls who will exclude the phrase "Wouldn't want them to think you're part of the common rabble, now." when granting you Thaneship of Eastmarch. The other two who do - Laila Law-Giver and Maven Black-Briar - do so because they have unique dialogue for this quest.
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