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"My only concern is for the children. The poor darlings have no one else."
―Connnstance Michel[src]


Constance Michel is an Imperial who works at Honorhall Orphanage, in Riften, with Grelod the Kind.


While Grelod is cruel and uncaring, Constance seems to be a kind person. The children say that she is "nice" to them, and they want her to be in charge; Aventus Aretino specifically requests that Constance be spared, showing how beloved she is. Even though she is appalled at her treatment of the children, Constance defends Grelod, saying that she was old and knows no other life. Constance is the only person in the orphanage to express any sorrow at Grelod's demise.


If the Dragonborn travels to Honorhall Orphanage in Riften (possibly at the behest of Aventus Aretino), Grelod will be seen berating and threatening the children. It is not possible to talk to Grelod, but Constance can be asked if Grelod is always that cruel to the children. Constance will admit that she is, and then try to usher the Dragonborn out, explaining that the children are not up for adoption, and it is cruel to get their hopes up.

If Grelod is killed, Constance enters a state of panic, but does not defend Grelod or alert the Riften Guard. She sometimes may not panic, but will instead casually walk out of the orphanage, yelling at the Dragonborn to get out, even when spoken to outside. With Grelod gone, Constance takes over as orphanage headmistress, and conditions improve greatly for the children there, although she continues Grelod's policy of not allowing the children to be adopted.


With the Hearthfire DLC installed, Grelod will still not allow the children to be adopted, but Constance will be delighted to do so. Shortly after Grelod has been killed, a courier will deliver a notice and announce that the orphanage is under new management, and that the "new lady in charge of the orphanage" has instructed him to hand out the notices to everyone he encounters. The letter urges the player to consider adoption, either from the orphanage or elsewhere.

If an offer is made to adopt a child from Honorhall, she will be delighted, but will want to know some things, most notably if they have a house with a child's bedroom and the prospective new parent's occupation. If a suitable home exists, she says to go and speak to the child they wish to adopt, and promises to get them safely to their new home. Her reaction to the Dragonborn's occupation varies depending on the answer.

Whether she saw the murder of Grelod or not, Constance will remain in a state of panic from Grelod's death until Innocence Lost is completed by talking to Aventus Aretino. However, she will not acknowledge the Dragonborn as the murderer once this questline is completed. If the player doesn't have Hearthfire, she will simply state that the children are not up for adoption (since no adoption system is in place) and ask the Dragonborn to leave. If the player does have Hearthfire and asks to adopt a child, Constance will not mention Grelod's murder even if she saw it happen.

While Grelod is alive, the flyer will not be delivered, and it will not be possible to adopt children from Honorhall. If the player asks about doing so, Constance will explain that Grelod is the headmistress, and she is not allowing any adoptions. It will still be possible to adopt orphaned children from other places, as long as the Dragonborn has a house with a child's bedroom.

Also if by any chance you adopt 2 kids before Grelod's death (street kids) and then you kill her under the mission requeriments, the notice will never get to your hands.



  • "I can't believe Grelod is dead. I had no love for the woman, but to be murdered, in cold blood..."
  • "I'm sorry, but the children aren't up for adoption right now. You should go."
  • "Grelod...Murdered, here? I...I need air...You!...get out, get out!"


Grelod "Constance!"
Constance "Yes, Grelod?"
Grelod "Samuel is getting to be a problem. Fancies himself something of a 'leader' to the other children. Put an end to the nonsense, or I will."
Constance "Okay, okay. I'll deal with it." or "Please, just let me deal with it. Its not a problem."

Grelod "Constance!"
Constance "Yes, Grelod?"
Grelod "We haven't had an adoption in months. At this rate, we'll be stuck with these brats forever. We need to get the word out. A sale, if need be."
Constance "Okay, okay. I'll deal with it." or "Please, just let me deal with it. Its not a problem."


This section contains bugs related to Constance Michel. Before adding a bug to this list, consider the following:

  1. Please reload an old save to confirm if the bug is still happening.
  2. If the bug is still occurring, please post the bug report with the appropriate system template  360  / XB1  ,  PS3  / PS4  ,  PC  / MAC  , depending on which platform(s) the bug has been encountered on.
  3. Be descriptive when listing the bug and fixes, but avoid having conversations in the description and/or using first-person-anecdotes: such discussions belong on the appropriate forum board.
  •  PC   360   PS3  After killing Grelod, she may continue to panic indefinitely, disabling any interactions with her. This behavior should stop once the quest Innocence Lost is completed. It would be advised not to kill Grelod until the quest is started.
  •  PC   360   PS3   If you are marrying an umarriable NPC like Elisif, she will say something along the lines of "Congratulations! I hope you have a wonderful life together."


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    • Did you kill them after talking to Arentinoin Windhelm?
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