I thought it was self-explanatory to include these types of categories, but I guess not. I think it would be useful to have categories for Gauntlets, Boots, Greaves, Pauldrons, Cuirasses, etc. for each game. The reason being a). for consistency sake. We have categories for shields, which are "pieces" of armor. We have categories for amulets and rings, which are "pieces" of jewelry. Between the regular, unenchanted vanilla gear to the special enchanted variations, there is no way these categories would end up being "too specific" or only have a few entries. The main reason this hasn't worked before is because editors are working against each other. I.e. some people removing the categories from pages as others are adding them to pages, without one group or the other really taking notice. Personally, I think it would be degenerative and anti-useful not to create categories of this nature. I definitely find myself wanting to find a groups of headgear or gloves that the have the best enchantments, but I can't, because the categories are always being removed. I vote for adding them back to all relevant pages. I will do every last edit myself, if that's what it takes.

After all, the point of categories is to be useful and increase navigability. I do not see this as being too specific or useless in anyway, but quite the opposite. --—Deyvid Petteys ^{(bother \ stalk)} 06:20, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

SupportEdit

Support — As nominator. --—Deyvid Petteys ^{(bother \ stalk)} 06:20, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Support — I don't know why we don't already have this.

Balagog gro-Nolob ^{(The Gourmet is listening)} 06:42, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Support — Agreed, specificity is important. HaLo2FrEeEk ^{Here I am!} 00:32, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Support — I have changed my mind on this topic. As Deyvid has stated; what is the point in having a unique armor piece article, when the information could just be listed on the armor set page? All pages should be categorized as thoroughly as possible, creating these categories would demonstrate just how organized this wiki actually is. Dar'Rajhin ^(talk) 03:54, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

Support — I see no harm, we already have some of the category's so we might as well add the restCheatcodechamp ^(talk) 16:16, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Support — Jaymz6 ^Talk 10:11, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

OpposeEdit

Oppose — I do not agree with having categories for each type of armor piece, each piece is included on their specific Armor Set Article which is in turn categorised under Category:Armor Sets; furthermore, I actually believe Category:Shields should not exists, seeing as they are also included on their specific Armor Set Article.

Putting this all into context, if someone was looking for, lets say Elven Boots (Skyrim), they would use the Armor Sets Category to navigate to Category:Skyrim: Light Armor Sets and in turn find the appropriate Elven Armor (Skyrim) article. If someone was looking for an enchanted piece of armor, such as Gloves of the Pugilist (Skyrim), they would use Category:Unique Armor to navigate to Category:Skyrim: Unique Armor and from there locate the specific article they are looking for. I believe using these methods, which are already possible, are a better choice than creating these new categories.

Time creating these categories and adding them to their pages could be better spent on more demanding projects and tasks, such as our overarching categories problem and/or the updating and verification of our lore pages. Dar'Rajhin ^(talk) 00:26, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Comment — If we decide to list all Enchanted Items under Unique Items pages and categories, then much reorganizing needs to take place. Not just for Skyrim, but for all games. At present, only some pages are listed the way that you propose. I'm not sure whether lumping them all into Unique Armor is better than Enchanted Armor, although it does cover more ground. --—Deyvid Petteys ^{(bother \ stalk)} 22:11, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Oppose — - Pointless. The vast majority of Armor pieces are part of an armor set so the information can be found there, as Dar mentioned. Shields is an exception as there are a fair number of shields that are unique pieces and not part of an armor set.

Secondly, if your wish is to browse for different headgears and compare enchantments, then a big list in a category page is no use whatsoever. You can only compare by opening two pages and switching between them both. This can be simply solved by having helms, gauntlets, boots etc all listed on Armor (Skyrim) under the specific headings, much like we have for Weapons (Skyrim). That way you actually can compare stats and enchantments much easier than a pointless category page. --Jimeee ^(talk) 21:55, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Comment — I really don't see how it's any less "pointless" than having categories for things like Category:Skyrim: Ore or Category:Ingots, when they could all be put into Category:Skyrim: Smithing Resources or Category: Skyrim: Crafting. --—Deyvid Petteys ^{(bother \ stalk)} 22:14, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Oppose — I think to have armor pieces listed on their respective Armor page in a table is a good idea for comparison. I know that the current Armor (Oblivion) page is probably not a good example to go off of for this since it's incomplete, but when everything has been cleaned up and tables and stats added for that page, I can visualize it being easy to sift through to compare stats with other pieces of armor. —TombRaiser ^SPEAK! 23:42, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

NeutralEdit

CommentsEdit

• Comment — I am still not convinced that this proposition is a bad idea. With the justification the others have given, we could also justifying removing individual articles, say, for pieces of an armor set. For example, Elven Boots. Why have a unique article, when we could just put all the information on the Elven Armor page? But then, why even have that? Why not put all the armor sets and pieces of armor on one big list like Armor (Oblivion)? I think this is one definite way to maximize the navigability on the wiki and increase the changes of people finding what they're looking for. Many times I find myself wanting a category for things like gloves and headgear, only to find nothing. Having to sift through a long list like I would if I was looking on UESP for something. Again, I am still unconvinced and am willing to fight this. I see no legitimate reasons not to include this. --—Deyvid Petteys ^{(bother \ stalk)} 23:58, August 1, 2012 (UTC)