Liar's Retreat is a cave located in the northwestern part of The Reach, southwest of Solitude and northeast of Karthwasten. An alternate route is to travel northwest from Broken Tower Redoubt. It is also next to the Reach Stormcloak Camp.

It is a bandit hideout that, upon arrival, is found to be in the process of being overrun by Falmer. Exploration will reveal the gaping hole used by the Falmer to invade, leading to Falmer lairs further in.


A single hostile Orsimer bandit is hiding from the Falmer, barricaded in a sleeping area behind a locked door. There are also Frostbite Spiders (one of which drops from a hole in the ceiling) and Chaurus (including a Chaurus Reaper) deeper inside the cave system. With Dawnguard, the Chaurus Reaper may be replaced by a Chaurus Hunter.

When exploring the tunnels the Dragonborn may come across two enclosures. One enclosure contains a dead bandit and the other contains two live bandits who are being taunted by a Falmer on the other side of a gate. The bandits may manage to open the gate and kill the Falmer. If they live, they are hostile to the Dragonborn, even if he or she assisted them.

Rahd's body lies on an altar with a Falmer sword stuck in his chest in the middle of the final chamber with The Longhammer next to him.

When the tavern area is reentered, three bandits arrive and the chief begins calling for service from the deceased barkeep, only to spot the carnage and exclaim, "What in Oblivion happened in here?" If they spot the Dragonborn, the bandits will assume that the Dragonborn is the responsible party and become hostile.

There are three corundum ore veins between the spider's nest and the pens holding the bandits. Another is outside.

Notable itemsEdit

Mer/Elf bloodEdit

This is a good place to gather the blood for the quest "Discerning the Transmundane":

  • The cave is inhabited by Falmer.
  • One of the bandits trying to escape is an Orc.
  • All of the elven blood types are here except for the Altmer.


  • This is one of the few places where tavern clothes can be found.
  • Chaurus eggs and many types of mushroom, including glowing mushrooms, can be harvested here.
  • Despite not having a typical cave entrance, followers will comment on it as though it were a cave.


This section contains bugs related to Liar's Retreat. Before adding a bug to this list, consider the following:

  1. Please reload an old save to confirm if the bug is still happening.
  2. If the bug is still occurring, please post the bug report with the appropriate system template  360  / XB1  ,  PS3  / PS4  ,  PC  / MAC  ,  NX  , depending on which platform(s) the bug has been encountered on.
  3. Be descriptive when listing the bug and fixes, but avoid having conversations in the description and/or using first-person-anecdotes: such discussions belong on the appropriate forum board.
  • If the Dragonborn refuses to take the Longhammer, or does not have enough carry weight, the hammer will be gone the next time they enter.
  •  360   If the Dragonborn enters as a werewolf, the game may freeze.
  •  360   If Serana is your companion (or anyone that conjures dead bodies to fight for them) and she revives a dead body, that body may not be able to be used for harvesting blood any longer.


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