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May the Best Thief Win
May the Best Thief Win
Quest Giver Armand Christophe
Location Imperial City Waterfront
Prerequisite Finding the Thieves Guild
Next Quest Untaxing the Poor
Reward Accepted into Thieves Guild
Ongar as Fence
Faction Thieves Guild
Type Thieves Guild quest
May the Best Thief Win is a quest available in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. The Hero will receive this quest upon finding Armand Christophe in the Finding the Thieves Guild quest. The Hero is tasked with proving their worth as a thief by stealing a diary from a house in the city. The twist is that there are two competitors, who also wish to join the Guild.

WalkthroughEdit

The initiation quest begins in the Waterfront District, a district of the Imperial City. The Hero will be competing in this quest with Methredhel and Amusei. They are requested to go to Amantius Allectus' home, and steal his diary. To find Amantius Allectus' home, simply ask a nearby beggar, or one can follow Methredhel, as she knows where it is. His home is in the Temple District. Travel to the southeastern section of the city and beat Methredhel there. Once the Hero enters, immediately look to the right and run for the desk; the diary is in it.

Some strategiesEdit

Getting the book before the competitors:

  • Attack them as they cannot die, but it will slow them down
  • Methredhel will get inside the house before them, once they get in it will take her a minute to get the book, move fast and they can easily beat her to it.

If Methredhel gets the book before the Hero, one has a few options:

  • Pickpocket it off her
  • Go to her house and steal it from her (it will be in her chest near the door). She lives right next to where this quest started, in the Waterfront District.

Once the Hero is in possession of the book, wait until midnight, and turn the diary in to Armand Christophe.

FailureEdit

If the Hero still failed to get the book to Christophe, a redemption chance is given to still join the guild. Christophe asks the Hero to steal Rohssan's Antique Cutlass. Rohssan is the merchant in charge of A Fighting Chance in the Imperial City Market District.

Gain unlawful entry to the shop at night, only two locks (on the front door and the chest containing the sword) and a guard dog is in the way of joining the guild. Kill the dog and retrieve the sword, and return to Christophe to become a full member of the guild.

JournalEdit

Journal Entry
  • Update: Upon speaking to Armand Christophe:

I spoke with Armand Christophe, who is a member of the Thieves Guild. He offered me a chance to join the guild, but I have to compete against two other thieves, Methredhel and Amusei. Which ever one of us steals Amantius Allectus' Diary first will be inducted into the Thieves Guild. It's somewhere in the Imperial City. He told me that the beggars might be able to tell me where to find him.

  • Update: After discovering where Amantius lives by talking to a beggar:

A beggar told me that Amantius Allectus lives in the Temple district, on the far east side.

  • Update: If the Hero is the first to find the diary:

I have beaten Methredhel and Amusei to Amantius Allectus' diary. Now to get back to Armand at Dareloth's garden by midnight.

  • Update: If Methredhel gets the diary first:

Methredhel has beaten me to Amantius Allectus' diary. If I can't get it from her somehow, she will get into the guild and I'll be left out in the cold. It's too bad the competition rules won't let me kill her. However, Armand didn't say anything about stealing from her!

  • Update: If Methredhel manages to hide the book in her house before finding her:

Methredhel has escaped. If I want that diary, I going to have to track her down. I wonder if the beggars can help me?

  • Update: Upon acquiring the diary:

I have stolen Amantius Allectus' diary from Methredhel. Now to get back to Armand at Dareloth's garden by midnight.

  • Update: Upon delivering the diary:

Armand Christophe has granted me a membership in the Thieves Guild. Methredhel is irritated, but I think she'll get over it. Amusei is threatening to become a freelance thief. Armand has given me the rules of the guild:

1. I can't kill anyone while I'm on the job. Animals and monsters are fair game though.
2. Never steal from anyone in the Thieves Guild.
3. Never steal from beggars and peasants, especially in the Waterfront. The Gray Fox protects them.
  • Update: If Methredhel gets the diary to Armand:

The word on the street is that Methredhel delivered Amantius Allectus diary to Armand. I hope Armand has something else I can do to get into the Thieves Guild. I should go see him at midnight in the Garden of Dareloth.

  • Update: After speaking to Armand the next night:

Methredhel delivered the diary to Armand before me. She has been accepted into the Thieves Guild.

  • Update: After Armand gives the next objective:

Armand is giving Amusei and I one more chance we have to steal Rohssan's sword from somewhere in the Imperial City and bring it back to him. The first one of us to do that will also be admitted into the Thieves Guild.

  • Update: Upon finding the cutlass:

I have Rohssan's Cutlass. Now to get back to Armand in the garden of Dareloth. I'll have to wait until midnight when he is there.

  • Update: After delivering the cutlass to Armand:

Armand Christophe has granted me a membership in the Thieves Guild. Amusei is threatening to become a freelance thief. Armand has given me the rules of the guild:

1. I can't kill anyone while I'm on the job. Animals and monsters are fair game though.
2. Never steal from anyone in the Thieves Guild.
3. Never steal from beggars and peasants, especially in the Waterfront. The Gray Fox protects them.
  • Quest complete

TriviaEdit

  • Use the cheat "player.additem 000355ED 1" (without quotes) to get the diary and give it to Armand to complete the quest and join the guild.

BugsEdit

This section contains bugs related to May the Best Thief Win. Before adding a bug to this list, consider the following:

  1. Confirm all bugs with other editors on the talk page before adding them below.
  2. Always try reloading an old save first, before asking for assistance.
  3. Do not discuss possible bug fixes or origins. Leave those and all other first-person-anecdotes on the talk page, not the article.
  4. Always add  360  ,  PS3  , and  PC   to clarify which system the bug appears on.
  •  PC   360   PS3  Methredhel may get to the diary almost immediately, and although the map indicates that the book is in her chest in her house, it does not appear in the chest when it is opened. It is not possible to pickpocket Methredhel for it since she is not carrying it. Even after 30 days Methredhel never takes the diary to Armand, and the secondary method of entering the Guild is never triggered. It is therefore impossible to join the Thieves Guild should this bug happen. Sleep a while outside her house. She will be asleep until noon and you can pickpocket her then.
  • Other bugs prevent you from pickpocketing her completely (you can't take the diary from her) also the diary doesn't appear in her chest.


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