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Message to Whiterun
Jarl Balgruf the Greater
Quest Giver General Tullius or Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak
Location Solitude
Prerequisite The Jagged Crown
Next Quest Battle for Whiterun (Stormcloaks) or
Battle for Whiterun (Imperial)
Reward N/A
Faction Imperial Legion or Stormcloaks
Quest ID CW03
Message to Whiterun is a quest available in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.


"I am to deliver a message to the Jarl of Whiterun. It is time for him to pick a side in the war."



If the Dragonborn decides to side with the Stormcloak Rebellion, Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak can be spoken with at the Palace of the Kings in Windhelm after delivering to him the Jagged Crown. He will explain that it is time to deliver a message to the Imperials of Whiterun and hand over Ulfric's War Axe to deliver to Jarl Balgruuf the Greater in Dragonsreach.

The quest continues in Whiterun by speaking with Jarl Balgruuf. After the initial conversation, he will speak with Proventus Avenicci and Irileth. They will debate their course of action - Proventus advises caution, while Irileth advises that they go to war with the Stormcloaks. Balgruuf agrees with Irileth - Ulfric may be serious, "But I'm serious, too." Upon completion of the debate he will hand back the axe, signifying that he is siding with the Imperial Legion and that there will be a war.

Back at the Palace of the Kings, speaking with Ulfric Stormcloak once again will initiate a scripted event during which Galmar Stone-Fist will encourage the Jarl to battle. He will request that the Dragonborn report to the front lines. Note that after the conversation, it may be necessary to wait or exit the palace and then return before the scripted event takes place. This event will finish "Message To Whiterun" and start "Battle for Whiterun."

Note: If the Stormcloaks are joined, at this point Whiterun and Dragonsreach will disappear from the map and cannot be reached.

Imperial LegionEdit

If the Dragonborn sides with the Imperial forces, General Tullius can be spoken with in Solitude after delivering the Jagged Crown to him. He tells the Dragonborn to deliver a message to Balgruuf in Dragonsreach.

As long as Dragon Rising has been completed, the quest continues in Whiterun by speaking to the Jarl and delivering the message. Upon delivering, he will converse with Irileth and Proventus Avenicci, and he decides to side with the Imperials. He will give the Dragonborn Balgruuf's War Axe, and ask that it be delivered to Ulfric Stormcloak, signifying that there will be a war.

Ulfric will tell the Dragonborn to go back to Dragonsreach and return the axe to Jarl Balgruuf, and that he is disappointed that the Dragonborn did not side with the Stormcloak rebellion. Upon return, Balgruuf will not be surprised that Ulfric returned the axe, and he already requested that Tullius send legionnaires to fight for Whiterun. Legate Quentin Cipius will be in Dragonsreach, and the Dragonborn will need to report to him, which ends "Message to Whiterun" and begins "Battle for Whiterun."


Journal (If on the Stormcloaks' side)
I am to deliver a message to the Jarl of Whiterun. It is time for him to pick a side in the war.
  • Objective: Deliver axe to the Jarl of Whiterun
  • Objective: Wait for the Jarl's response
The Jarl of Whiterun has sided with the Empire. I am to inform Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak of this decision.
  • Objective: Deliver axe to Jarl Ulfric
  • Objective: Wait for orders from Jarl Ulfric
  • Quest complete


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  • Message to whiterun problem (stormcloaks)

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    • Have you talked to Balgruuf?
    • The quest should appear in the journal you might want to reload if possable and see if you can get it to appear, if you also have the quest Dra...
  • Message to Whiterun problem

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    • Looking for some help with a miscellaneus quest, report to the jarl of white run, but when i go to him it dose not come up with any option...
    • If you win the Battle for Whiterun but don't go and listen to Balgruuf's speach at the gates that'll happen you should (i think) be able to k...

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