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Skingrad Recommendation is a quest available in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. As part of "Join the Mages Guild", the Hero must get a recommendation from each city's Mages Guild Hall.

One of the members at Skingrad Mages Guild have gone missing; the Hero can help by locating him.


Skingrad Mages GuildEdit

Adrienne Berene promises to write the recommendation if the Hero will find out what has happened to another Mages Guild member named Erthor.

After asking other mages in the Skingrad Mages Guild Hall about Erthor, the Hero learns that he is very clumsy with his Conjuration, and had a little incident when he summoned a scamp. Because of this, Erthor was asked to do all his Conjuration practice in a cavern named Bleak Flats Cave, west of Skingrad.

The player is also asked by the other mages to remind Adrienne that this was her idea. Adrienne vaguely remembers saying something of the sort, and asks the Hero to go to the cave and investigate why Erthor has not returned recently. She also teaches them a basic area-of-effect Fire Ball spell, so they can expect to end up in a fight.

Bleak Flats CaveEdit

Once inside the cave, they encounter seven "deranged" zombies. Area-of-effect spells prove very effective against the groups of zombies. After killing all the zombies, they can locate Erthor holed up in one end of the cave rooms. He is very grateful that they eliminated his renegade creations, and wishes to follow the Hero back to Skingrad Mages Guild.

Once back at the Skingrad Mages Guild Hall with Erthor in tow, the Hero must speak with Adrienne again, and she will subsequently write their recommendation.


Journal Entry
  • Update: After talking to Adrienne Berene about the recommendation:

In order to get a recommendation from Adrienne Berene, I need to find Erthor and return him to the Skingrad Mages Guild. I should speak with the other guild makes to learn his whereabouts.

  • Update: After talking to the Druja about Erthor:

I have been told Erthor was last seen at Bleak Flats Cave, west of Skingrad. I should remind Adrienne of this.

  • Update: After talking to Adrienne Berene about Erthor:

I need to go to Bleak Flats Cave and find Erthor.

  • Update: After talking to Erthor in Bleak Flats Cave:

I've found Erthor in Bleak Flats Cave, and have agreed to escort him back to Adrienne Berene in Skingrad.

  • Update: After returning Erthor to the Skingrad Mages Guild and talking to Adrienne about the recommendation:

Adrienne Berene has agreed to send a recommendation to the Arcane University on my behalf.

  • Quest complete


  • Sulinus Vassinus was supposed to have a dialogue option regarding the quest, in which he could have been asked to find Erthor, with a fee of 300 septims. Upon being paid, he would have walked to Bleak Flats Cave and spent three in-game days to finish the task, and the player would have been able to claim the credit. Due to a scripting error, however, the option would only appear if Vassinus' deposition was to be both "less than zero" and "greater than or equal to 70".


This section contains bugs related to Skingrad Recommendation. Before adding a bug to this list, consider the following:

  1. Please reload an old save to confirm if the bug is still happening.
  2. If the bug is still occurring, please post the bug report with the appropriate system template  360  / XB1  ,  PS3  / PS4  ,  PC  / MAC  , depending on which platform(s) the bug has been encountered on.
  3. Be descriptive when listing the bug and fixes, but avoid having conversations in the description and/or using first-person-anecdotes: such discussions belong on the appropriate forum board.
  • There is a minor bug that occurs during this quest, in which Erthor follows the Hero around for the rest of the game, even after he talks with Adrienne. There is a way around it, however: after entering the Mages Guild Hall with Erthor, the Hero must tell him to wait. Then, one must wait a few hours and, after doing so, talk to Adrienne. She should have spoken to Erthor by then, unless she is asleep at the time, in which case wait until morning.

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