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The skill of persuasion can be used to get better prices from merchants and persuade others to do as you ask.

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"Heard about you and your honeyed words..."
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For this skill in other games, see Speechcraft.

Speech is a skill in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim and is one of the six skills that falls under The Thief play-style. This skill is a combination of both Speechcraft and Mercantile skills of previous Elder Scrolls and replaces them. Speech may also help with quests by unlocking special dialogue interactions, including Intimidate, Mock, Brawl and more.

Governing Guardian Stone: The Thief

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Usefulness and functionEdit

Speech directly affects the prices paid when buying from and selling to merchants, even without the assorted perks. At 0 speech, merchants sell items for 3 times their base price, and buy for a third of their base price. At 100 speech, merchants will sell items for twice their base price and buy them for half as much. Alternatively, Speech can be used to persuade people into doing things or divulging crucial information. Bribes made are also governed by Speech.

Types of SpeechEdit

Persuade

Intimidate

Brawl

Bribe

PerksEdit

The following are the perks that become available to select as the skill is leveled up:

Perk (Ranks) Requirements Description
Haggling (5) Buying and selling prices are 10% better (+5% per additional rank)
Allure Speech 30, Haggling 10% better prices with the opposite sex
Bribery Speech 30, Haggling Can bribe guards to ignore crimes
Merchant Speech 50, Allure Can sell any type of item to any kind of merchant
Persuasion Speech 50, Bribery Persuasion attempts are 30% easier
Investor Speech 70, Merchant Can invest 500 gold with a shopkeeper to increase their available gold permanently (see Note)
Intimidation Speech 70, Persuasion Intimidation is twice as successful
Fence Speech 90, Investor Can barter stolen goods with any merchant you have invested in
Master Trader Speech 100, Fence Every merchant in the world gains 1000 gold for bartering

†The way Investor seems to work is that the 500 gold ends up in the shopkeeper's personal inventory rather than the store inventory, also, it seems like any gold in the shopkeeper's personal inventory is added to the store gold when calculating how much they can buy. This means two things:

  1. GoldIcon can be pickpocketed from them. This means the store will not have 500 GoldIcon when their inventory refreshes. Stealing from them does not lower their disposition.
  2. GoldIcon can be reverse-pickpocketed onto them to increase the investment effect. Also, placing gold is much easier than taking it. This can create shopkeepers with a very high amount of gold.

PricesEdit

See also: Fortify Barter

Prices are computed by the following:

sell price factor = (3.3 - 1.3 * skill/100) / ((1 + Haggling %) * (1 + Allure %) * (1 + Fortify Barter from potion) * (1 + the sum of Fortify Barter from equipment + Fortify Barter from Blessing of Zenithar))
buy price factor = (3.3 - 1.3 * skill/100) * (1 / (1 + Haggling %)) * (1 / (1 + Allure %)) * (1 - Fortify Barter from potion) * (1 - the sum of Fortify Barter from equipment - Fortify Barter from Blessing of Zenithar)
sell price = value / sell price factor
buy price = value * buy price factor
  • At 0 skill and no perks the price factor is 3.3
  • At 100 skill and no perks the price factor is 2
  • At 100 skill and all perks the price factor is 1.42857.

Skills over 100 have no effect.

LevelingEdit

The speech skill increase depends on the base value of the item traded or the difficulty of the bribe or persuasion. When selling items, it is not actually required to receive any gold, only that the transaction takes place. The skill increase only occurs once per transaction. In order to optimize leveling, expensive items in groups of 6 or more should be sold individually, rather than all at once.

Books and questsEdit

The following are a list of books that increase the Speech Skill. For a list of locations, see the individual book article:

The following miscellaneous quests increases the Speech Skill:

TrainersEdit

Leveling tipsEdit

Method OneEdit

At the Black-Briar Meadery in Riften, the Dragonborn can, through a Persuasion check, enter an infinite dialogue loop with Ungrien regarding Maven Black-Briar. Once at the Meadery, speak to Ungrien and ask him to tell you what he thinks about Maven Black-Briar. Then, choose the Persuade option "Come on, get the truth off your chest". This is no longer possible with the new update. It will make the dialogue disappaer after one try. Fixed as of Patch 1.9.

Method TwoEdit

Members of the Thieves Guild have the option to bribe guards when minor crimes are committed. Repeatedly committing small crimes, such as trespassing or pickpocketing, and bribing guards to look the other way can help level Speech quickly. GoldIcon spent bribing a guard can be pickpocketed back with a high enough pickpocket skill.

Method ThreeEdit

During the Dark Brotherhood quest, "Recipe For Disaster", Anton Virane can be intimidated repeatedly to level Speech.  A detailed guide for executing this method:

  1. Begin Talking with him. After you say "For the Dark Brotherhood, that can be easily arranged. (Intimidate)",
  2. He will respond "The Dark Brotherhood?".
  3. Immediately exit the conversation.
  4. Begin to talk to him again and quickly skip through most of the conversation.
  5. Exit the conversation at the same time as before.
  6. Repeat

ItemsEdit

Some items increase the Speech skill. These include:

AchievementsEdit

Snake Tongue (Achievement)
Snake Tongue
Successfully persuade, bribe, and intimidate
Points 10 Game points
Trophy
Bronze trophy

See alsoEdit

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