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Swindler's Den is a cave east of Rorikstead and southwest of Morthal. It is infested with several leveled bandits. Swindler's Den serves as the base of the Alik'r in the quest "In My Time of Need".


Notable itemsEdit


Skeleton Reaching for Mead
  • A skeleton found in a haystack reaching for a bottle of mead can be found in an alcove.
  • To the right of the first hall, there are a couple of boulders, the Dragonborn can climb up with spamming the jump button. With that, just follow the path into the final hall, which spares the Dragonborn almost every battle with local bandits.
  • When entering the first hall, there is a practice dummy with a red apple perched atop its head. This is a reference to the story of William Tell, who had to shoot an apple off of his son's head. Amusingly, the dummy has two iron arrows in it, being nowhere close to the head. The Dragonborn can play a mini-game of trying to shoot the apple with the long bow and iron arrows provided on the opposite ledge after clearing the dungeon.


This section contains bugs related to Swindler's Den. Before adding a bug to this list, consider the following:

  1. Please reload an old save to confirm if the bug is still happening.
  2. If the bug is still occurring, please post the bug report with the appropriate system template  360  / XB1  ,  PS3  / PS4  ,  PC  / MAC  , depending on which platform(s) the bug has been encountered on.
  3. Be descriptive when listing the bug and fixes, but avoid having conversations in the description and/or using first-person-anecdotes: such discussions belong on the appropriate forum board.
  •  360   If the cave is reentered after finishing the quest "In My Time of Need" and choosing the ending by helping Kematu, the Alik'r Warriors and Kematu are still in Swindler's Den, without Saadia. The warriors can be attacked and killed.
    • When entering the den under this scenario, the Alik'r spawn with a Bandit Chief and a couple of regular bandits who immediately start attacking the Alik'r. Who wins is up to chance. Whoever is left alive can now be finished off and looted (the Alik'r now have no conversation options and are not needed for any further quests).
  •  PS3   360   If the cave is reentered after finishing In My Time of Need there is the possibility the game will get stuck on the loading screen and never actually load the cave. The problem seems to arise as soon as the Dragonborn accepts the "Stealing Plans" quest from Aela the Huntress after clearing Gallows Rock in the Companions questline.
  •  PC   360   PS3   Sometimes after completing In My Time of Need all subsequent reentries into Swindler's Den will cause the game to crash. This can make completing the Companions quest line impossible.
  •  PS3   Once you get into the second room and kill the bandits, you can jump or "mountain" up the side of the right wall to go straight into the room with Kematu, thereby shortening the quest.


Start a Discussion Discussions about Swindler's Den

  • Thief skill book in swindlers den

    3 messages
    • Have you already read Thief on that character? If so you won't get the skill increase again.
    • This was made two years ago unfortunately tidying up threads hides the creation date, i imagine your right though as Thief can be found very early.
  • Found this while clearing a bandit cave. What does it reference to?

    5 messages
    • That might not really be referencing anything. Might just be the game developers having  some fun. :p
    • I do remeber seeing this in one of my 5 replays but I think it was way back in the first or second one, it is a laugh right, or I always thou...

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