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The Way of the Voice
High Hrothgar
Quest Giver Balgruuf the Greater
Location High Hrothgar
Prerequisite Dragon Rising
Next Quest The Horn of Jurgen Windcaller
Reward Ro (Second word of Unrelenting Force shout)
Wuld (First word of Whirlwind Sprint shout)
Faction The Greybeards
Type Main Quest
Quest ID MQ105
The Way of the Voice is a quest available in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.


The Greybeards have summoned me to their monastery of High Hrothgar on the slopes of the Throat of the World. They seem to have learned of the mysterious power I gained when I killed the Dragon outside Whiterun.


The ShoutEdit

After the completion of Dragon Rising, a powerful shout will be heard from the mountains close to Whiterun. Upon talking to Jarl Balgruuf, it is revealed that the shout was uttered by the Greybeards, summoning the Dragonborn to High Hrothgar. The Jarl (after a heated discussion between Proventus Avenicci and Hrongar) will suggest that the Dragonborn should travel to High Hrothgar, so that the Greybeards can educate them in the Way of the Voice.

Going to IvarsteadEdit

The first stage of this quest is to travel to Ivarstead, in The Rift. The safest way is to travel via a route south from Whiterun, beginning at the destroyed Helgen, staying on the main road and heading east through the mountains. Alternatively, they could follow a route north, around the mountain, but this may present some challenges to low-level players (Valtheim Towers, Ruined Toll and Wispmother's Well, Trolled Stormcloaks Darkwater Overhang).

Once in Ivarstead, cross the bridge and travel up the "7000 steps" to reach High Hrothgar. Before doing so however, talk to some of the villagers as they can provide some information about High Hrothgar. One in particular, Klimmek, will request that they deliver some supplies to High Hrothgar, by placing them in the offering chest located just outside of the building. Doing so will reward them with a leveled amount of gold.

The 7000 stepsEdit

One should be careful when travelling up the steps, as there is an array of enemies that could be encountered, including a (fixed) frost troll and other random leveled enemies such as Ice Wolves, Snow Bears or Ice Wraiths. The Frost Troll can be difficult to defeat for a lower leveled Dragonborn and there are a wide range of different strategies which could be used when confronting it, including:


  1. Frost Trolls, like any other type of troll, have a weakness to fire. Using weapons which have a fire damage enchantment can give them an advantage, as well as using fire-based destruction spells. The Shout Fire Breath could also be used, as a word for it can be gained early on in the Companions storyline, during the quest Proving Honor. Alternatively, they could summon a Flame Atronach, a spell which can also be learnt early on, which would also expose the Troll's weakness to fire.
  2. Trolls can deal a substantial amount of damage, but most of it can be avoided by tactically falling back when one sees the Troll raising his arms or preparing a power attack. If they need to heal, they can sprint away; the Troll will not generally outrun them. Similarly, using a shield to block the Troll's attacks can also be effective, but does depend highly on timing.
  3. Being a Nord, one can use Battle Cry to make the Frost Troll flee for 30 seconds, giving enough time to run to High Hrothgar.
  4. It is possible to scale the rocks just before the troll, allowing them to use ranged attacks to safely eliminate it (using a bow with a fire enchantment would give a significant advantage, however, they could use ranged destruction spells including Fireball or Firebolt whilst following the same strategy).
  5. It can be killed by long distance arrows from the entrance to the ravine it lives in. Go into stealth mode and stand at the entrance to the ravine and shoot at the Troll when you can just see it on top of the right cliff of the ravine. For each successful hit you get a % damage bonus for being in stealth mode so it should take less than 10 arrows to kill the Troll. The Troll may shift left or right a little in which case adjust your aim, but you are too far away for it to come after you.
  6. Another strategy is using the Unrelenting Force shout and then sprinting away while the Troll is stunned.
  7. A final strategy, for those lower leveled Dragonborns is to retreat down the stairs. The npc who is meditating at the statue will then come to help you and defeat the Troll.
  8. If all else fails, one can lure the Troll up to High Hrothgar. Get the Troll to follow you into the monastery, and the Greybeards will defeat it very quickly.

The temporary effect Voice of the Sky can be gained whilst travelling up the steps, by reading the ten etched tablets along the path. A short distance after the troll encounter, is High Hrothgar, and the next stage of the quest.

High HrothgarEdit

Once the Dragonborn has made it up the 7000 steps they will arrive at High Hrothgar. Go inside and they will be approached by four members of the Greybeards, but only one will and can talk; Arngeir. He will ask the Dragonborn to demonstrate their abilities. Use the Shout on Arngeir, the Shouts cannot hurt them. After speaking to Arngeir, they must demonstrate their newly learned Word of Power on three spectral forms. Then go to the High Hrothgar Courtyard to learn and demonstrate the Whirlwind Sprint shout. After that, Arngeir tells them their training is complete.


Journal Entry
  • Objective: Speak to the Greybeards

The Greybeards have summoned me to their monastery of High Hrothgar on the slopes of the Throat of the World. They seem to have learned of the mysterious power that I gained when I killed the dragon outside Whiterun.

  • Objective: Speak to the Greybeards

The Greybeards summoned me to their monastery of High Hrothgar on the slopes of the Throat of the World. I spoke to Arngeir, one of the Greybeards, who believes that I am "Dragonborn", which means I am especially gifted in the use of the Voice. They have offered to help me learn to use my new abilities.

  • Objective: Demonstrate your "Unrelenting Force" Shout
  • Objective: Speak to Arngeir
  • Objective: Learn the Word of Power from Einarth
  • Objective: Speak to Arngeir for further training
  • Objective: Demonstrate your "Unrelenting Force" Shout
  • Objective: Learn the Word of Power from Borri
  • Objective: Demonstrate your "Whirlwind Sprint" Shout

The Greybeards summoned me to their monastery of High Hrothgar on the slopes of the Throat of the World. Their leader, Arngeir, recognized me as "Dragonborn", and taught me more about my new Voice powers. After passing several tests, they sent me on one final trial, retrieving the legendary Horn of Jurgen Windcaller.

  • Quest complete


  • The Way of the Voice is a lifestyle practiced by the Greybeards. They spend their entire life meditating and practicing to use power words.
  • Apart from the Dragonborn, nobody born is able to easily pick up the Voice.
  • There are two Hunters who when asked claim that they climb most of the way up the 7000 steps every couple of years.
  • When the Greybeards shout after you kill the dragon, they say "Dovahkiin" which is "Dragonborn" in dragon tongue.
  • If the Dragonborn has already learned a word/two words to the "Whirlwind Sprint" shout, Arngeir will say: "I see you have already begun to learn the Whirlwind Sprint shout. Master Borri will teach you - "Nah"/(Kest, if the player has already learned two words)- the second/final word of Whirlwind Sprint." Borri will then proceed to teach the Dragonborn the next word in the shout.
  • When the Dragonborn goes out to the courtyard, Wulfgar may be heard using the Clear Skies shout.
  • If the Dragonborn has unlocked the Slow Time shout, they can get through the gates with it; the objective will be finished as usual.


This section contains bugs related to The Way of the Voice. Before adding a bug to this list, consider the following:

  1. Please reload an old save to confirm if the bug is still happening.
  2. If the bug is still occurring, please post the bug report with the appropriate system template  360  / XB1  ,  PS3  / PS4  ,  PC  / MAC  , depending on which platform(s) the bug has been encountered on.
  3. Be descriptive when listing the bug and fixes, but avoid having conversations in the description and/or using first-person-anecdotes: such discussions belong on the appropriate forum board.
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  • The objective "Speak to Arngeir" may not register as complete. If you have spoken to Arngeir, make sure you exit out of the small door down the stairs in front of Arngeir out into Skyrim. Sometimes when you turn around and exit out the big double doors, it will not register as completed. This can be easily fixed by re-entering the building and using the other exit (some players report this does not work either). Also may not register as complete if you climb the south side of the mountain, and do not enter through the front of the building.
  • A similar bug will appear in which the dialogue with Arngeir will progress to the point where Einarth should give the player his "essence," after learning the word Ro. However, the Greybeards have not gathered, and Einarth will not respond if found by the player. This does not appear to be an issue if a character progresses straight from killing the first dragon in Whiterun to High Hrothgar — the conflict seems to stem from completing a certain quest prior to entering High Hrothgar. In the absence of any documented fixes, players experiencing this bug are advised to use the console command setstage mq105 60 -> 120, incrementing by fives. Talk to Arngeir when necessary to ensure you're completing the quest objectives.
  • There's also another bug you might encounter right after you've learned Ro. When you are going to test it, the greybeards summon targets for you by shouting Fiik Lo Sah. The bug lies in the targets, as they do not appear. To fix this, right after they've shouted Fiik Lo Sah, you should open your item menu and close it again. After you close the item menu the target should appear. If that does not work, try to exit the door and re-enter. If you run into these bugs on the PC you can use the console to finish the quest by typing setstage MQ105 160 which will complete it.
  • If you move around in the room while demonstrating your Unrelenting Force shout the targets may not react to it. To solve this stand next to Arngeir and use the shout on the targets.
  • If you use Whirlwind Sprint with Master Borri when he passes through the gate, the Dragonborn can walk through it, whether it is open or closed.
  • Sometimes, you are unable to learn the word of power from Borri. On PC follow these steps to complete the quest and get the shout:
  1. Open the console and write setstage mq105 115 and press enter.
  2. Leave the console and talk to Arngeir.
  3. Open the console and write setstage mq105 140 and press enter.
  4. Leave the console and talk to Arngeir again.
  5. Open the console and write player.teachword 2F7BB and press enter to learn the wirlwind shout.
  • Arngeir and Borri may freeze after demonstrating Whirlwind Sprint. You may still complete the quest and return the Horn of Jurgen Windcaller later on, but it will make completing the next quest impossible.
  • When you are told to use Whirlwind Sprint you do not have to do so as the objective will complete if you simply walk through the gate.
  • After learning the next word in Whirlwind Sprint from Borri (if the Dragonborn already knows one or two words), Arngeir will still say, "Approach Master Borri and he will gift you his knowledge of 'Wuld,'" even if "Wuld" is not the word being learned.
  • If you have already learned the first and/or second word of Whirlwind Sprint, then you may fly off the edge of the mountain if you use all the words of power.
  • Greybeards may gather to teach the 'Wuld' shout, but Arngeir will not join them. He does not move, but when spoken to will say 'First you Wulfgar will teach you Wuld' (?). Cannot turn in either the Horn of Jurgen Windcaller or the Blades quest after Alduin's wall. (This may be a result of trying to turn in the quests together). Arngeir cannot be pushed into place, but will move if attacked (so not stuck in floor). Leaving and returning to the area has no affect.


The Way of the Voice (Achievement)
The Way of the Voice
Complete "The Way of the Voice"
Points 20 Game points
Bronze trophy

Start a Discussion Discussions about The Way of the Voice

  • Stuck in main quest

    3 messages
    • This bug is addressed in the page, The Way of the Voice. According to the bugs list, you need to open and close the Items Menu, right after ...
    • You could try attacking or using Unrelenting Force on the Greybeard that sometimes unsticks a npc, but its a longshot unfortunately. With Prov...
  • Dragon at 7000 steps

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    • Very unlikely you'll get an answer from ShadowTheif but the beginning and end of the post makes it sound like the middle part had dragon and tr...
    • I was sort of assuming the dragon fought all of the trolls but the player only saw one of the trolls fighting it. :p

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