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  • So, i was wondering, that regardless of which diety(Sithis, other Daedric Princes, etc.) you pledged yourself into and after killing Alduin, i was wondering what is your character's fate after you killed Miraak and took his place as Herma-Mora's Champion, will he/she end up a servant to him forever, like Miraak before his death?

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    • 112.198.82.247 wrote:
      So, i was wondering, that regardless of which diety(Sithis, other Daedric Princes, etc.) you pledged yourself into and after killing Alduin, i was wondering what is your character's fate after you killed Miraak and took his place as Herma-Mora's Champion, will he/she end up a servant to him forever, like Miraak before his death?


      Yes, you become the new Hermaeus Mora's champion, so when you die you go to his realm to learn a lot of stuff


      P.S. you do know Sithis is not a Daedric Prince right?

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    • I think that Sithis will pretty much override the other claims for my current dragonborn and he will serve him in the void

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    • Maybe the Dragonborn gets to choose? Mine would certainly prefer an eternity in Hircine's hunting grounds to serving Sithis in the void.

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    • I don't think you choose, when you die you go to the last divinity you served, ex: if your character is Hircine's Champion and Nocturnal's, if you die serving hircine then you go to the Hunting Grounds

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    • Or maybe it's the one that the Dragonborn served most wholeheartedly. If he loves the Nine Divines more than Sithis, he will be sent to Sovngarde, instead of the void. Of course, that thought seems to contradict the Companions questline...

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    • I don't know, I would think that some of the gods/daedra have stronger claims to the fate of the Dragonborn than others do. For instance- If you're some animal pelt wearing Nord who runs around drinkind mead and dreaming of Sovngarde, I'd bet you'll end up with Shor in the afterlife, even if you had to work through Hermaeus Mora to defeat Miraak. Just my .02

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    • Assuming *giant wall of text in another thread I don't have time to repeat before bedtime*, the dragonborn will probably be shared.

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    • At the end of the main story he said he would meet me again in sovngarde but I did all of the guide stories.

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    • But I think it's up to the player's imagination to choose.

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    • I think that after his death, the Dragonborn's soul will be ripped to pieces by Sithis and all the Daedric Princes he served, and each one will take a part of the Dragonborn's soul! which means that the Dragonborn is f*cked!

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    • Dragonborn will be way to powerful and even Daedric Princes will be too scared of her to let her in. She will then enter Oblivion, kill every Prince and then go to Sovngard to drink some mead and talk with Olaf and others.

      Then, she will bind souls of all killed Princes to one blade and send it to Nirn. Whoever picks up the blade will have nearly unlimited power, but the blade will kill him after three uses.


      Because, why not? :)

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    • Tsun mentioned that after his/her count of days The Dragonborn will go to sovngarde, plus the Dragonborn is the chosen champion of the divines his/her soul is protected by the divines (if the Dragonborn is good of course.) so i believe he/she will go to sovngarde.

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    • I definately think the Dragonborn has done enough to literally become a god, and there is lore backing that.

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    • Dovahsebrom wrote: I definately think the Dragonborn has done enough to literally become a god, and there is lore backing that.

      Become a god? I thought he was one, based on his divine powers of reloading.

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    • I think Nocturnal has more rights for Dragonborn soul, because there was oath involved. There are quite a few sides, to whom Dragonborn pledged his allegiance by service, like most other daedric princes. How it will end, I can't even guess. He may as well tell them all to get lost and go to Sovngarde.

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    • I think that Dragonborn will either go to Sovngard(if he is Nord) or become Divine.I mean no matter imperial or stromcloak atleast Talos will try to keep him for their purposes.

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    • Meh, the Miraak/LDB/Herma Enatiomorph will make the LDB merge with Miraak & Herma which will result in a second Talos.

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    • AlxCj wrote: I don't think you choose, when you die you go to the last divinity you served, ex: if your character is Hircine's Champion and Nocturnal's, if you die serving hircine then you go to the Hunting Grounds

      does that mean if my dragonborn uses the wabbajack before death he goes to the

      shivering isles...oh...my...GOD....MORE ADVENTURING AFTER DEATH

      -tdwtg

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    • I have my own personal theory I would like to share. Since the Dragonborn absorbs the souls of Dragons, when He/she dies, a dragon soul takes his/her place for the Deadric Prince's Realm and the Void while the Dragonborn's soul goes to Sovengarde.

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    • Maybe a Dragon break occurs and incartions of the Dragnborn goes to all realms.

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    • 70.124.70.31 wrote:
      Maybe a Dragon break occurs and incartions of the Dragnborn goes to all realms.

      God, please no Dragon Breaks anymore. A Dragon Break is also not possible outside of Mundus, since linear Time only exists there. It doesn't exist in Oblivion, which is why Miraak is 5000 years old.

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    • AngryEnclaveSoldier wrote:
      70.124.70.31 wrote:
      Maybe a Dragon break occurs and incartions of the Dragnborn goes to all realms.
      A Dragon Break is also not possible outside of Mundus, since linear Time only exists there. It doesn't exist in Oblivion, which is why Miraak is 5000 years old.

      Linear time exists within all planes. If it didin't then going to Oblivion would be completely incomprehensible.

      The reason why time is linear is because all of Aka is bound to Mundus; this effects everything else the exact same.

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    • Sky Above,Voice Within wrote:

      Dovahsebrom wrote: I definately think the Dragonborn has done enough to literally become a god, and there is lore backing that.

      Become a god? I thought he was one, based on his divine powers of reloading.

      Didn't the Dovahkiin replaces Miraak by becoming the latest Champion of Hermaeus-Mora? This very similiar to the Hero of Kvatch.

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    • Nazul Rostello wrote:

      Sky Above,Voice Within wrote:

      Dovahsebrom wrote: I definately think the Dragonborn has done enough to literally become a god, and there is lore backing that.

      Become a god? I thought he was one, based on his divine powers of reloading.

      Didn't the Dovahkiin replaces Miraak by becoming the latest Champion of Hermaeus-Mora? This very similiar to the Hero of Kvatch.

      Sure. I mean, I answered Herma badly everytime I talked to him, but I'm apparently his champion as well.

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    • The Dragonborn has an dragons soul therefore he/she is the child of Akatosh he/she will serve Akatosh in death becuase his/her soul is immortal. Another posibillity is that he will become a divine for slaying Alduin and Mirrak, restoring peace to the the land, and all the other things you do while playing.

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    • Mora is just luring/seducing the Dragonborn to serve him like he did with Miraak.

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    • "Herma-Mora forced you to serve him in order to defeat Miraak. Do not let him lure you further down that path. The All-Maker made you Dragonborn for a higher purpose."

      I think the Dragonborn can choose his own path after that, not tied with Hermaeus Mora. He could go on to Sovngarde like Tsun said.

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    • I suppose, being the ultimate-everything-kill-everyone-become-hero-of-everything guy, you get to choose?

      A lifetime of listening to Hermaeus Mora saying 'Commmmeeee, myy Chammpionnnnn *Insert whistling-cow noises here*.' a mile a decade seems a bit unfair, considering you pretty much killed every single threat to Nirn.

      If we got a choice, I'd probably choose Hircine's Hunting Grounds for eternity.

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    • 83.220.196.126 wrote:
      I suppose, being the ultimate-everything-kill-everyone-become-hero-of-everything guy, you get to choose?

      A lifetime of listening to Hermaeus Mora saying 'Commmmeeee, myy Chammpionnnnn *Insert whistling-cow noises here*.' a mile a decade seems a bit unfair, considering you pretty much killed every single threat to Nirn.

      If we got a choice, I'd probably choose Hircine's Hunting Grounds for eternity.

      Not really.

      The Thalmor.

      Akavir/Tosh Raka.

      etc

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    • he travels to red mountain and retrieves the heart of lorkhan and once coming into contact with it he relizes that he is lorkhan then he travels to atmora to reclaim his body and ressurect lorkhan once more.

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    • 76.23.148.161 wrote:
      he travels to red mountain and retrieves the heart of lorkhan and once coming into contact with it he relizes that he is lorkhan then he travels to atmora to reclaim his body and ressurect lorkhan once more.

      ...What?

      Oh wait, you're the one who keeps thinking that Lorkhan "will return".

      If you didn't know yet, the Nerevarine broke the enchantments which Kagrenac layed on the Heart of Lorkhan to keep it in one place. That means that the Heart of Lorkhan is probably warping around Nirn at the moment. 

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    • 41.250.160.161 wrote:
      I think that after his death, the Dragonborn's soul will be ripped to pieces by Sithis and all the Daedric Princes he served, and each one will take a part of the Dragonborn's soul! which means that the Dragonborn is f*cked!

      LMAO its true. the dragonborn became a lot of champions

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    • my choice would be with Hircine, Meridia or Nocturnal 

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    • Pelinal Whitestrake wrote:
      76.23.148.161 wrote:
      he travels to red mountain and retrieves the heart of lorkhan and once coming into contact with it he relizes that he is lorkhan then he travels to atmora to reclaim his body and ressurect lorkhan once more.
      ...What?

      Oh wait, you're the one who keeps thinking that Lorkhan "will return".

      If you didn't know yet, the Nerevarine broke the enchantments which Kagrenac layed on the Heart of Lorkhan to keep it in one place. That means that the Heart of Lorkhan is probably warping around Nirn at the moment. 

      And why would he go to Atmora to reclaim his body when his corpse is the moons?

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    • Pelinal Whitestrake wrote:
      83.220.196.126 wrote:
      I suppose, being the ultimate-everything-kill-everyone-become-hero-of-everything guy, you get to choose?

      A lifetime of listening to Hermaeus Mora saying 'Commmmeeee, myy Chammpionnnnn *Insert whistling-cow noises here*.' a mile a decade seems a bit unfair, considering you pretty much killed every single threat to Nirn.

      If we got a choice, I'd probably choose Hircine's Hunting Grounds for eternity.

      Not really.

      The Thalmor.

      Akavir/Tosh Raka.

      etc


      I suppose. I think I meant to say 'Threat to Skyrim' instead, unless you count Oblivion, Morrowind etc.

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    • 83.220.196.189 wrote:
      Pelinal Whitestrake wrote:
      83.220.196.126 wrote:
      I suppose, being the ultimate-everything-kill-everyone-become-hero-of-everything guy, you get to choose?

      A lifetime of listening to Hermaeus Mora saying 'Commmmeeee, myy Chammpionnnnn *Insert whistling-cow noises here*.' a mile a decade seems a bit unfair, considering you pretty much killed every single threat to Nirn.

      If we got a choice, I'd probably choose Hircine's Hunting Grounds for eternity.

      Not really.

      The Thalmor.

      Akavir/Tosh Raka.

      etc


      I suppose. I think I meant to say 'Threat to Skyrim' instead, unless you count Oblivion, Morrowind etc.

      They are still threats to Skyrim, just less open and pressing from the common person's perspective (the former less so, but dragons burning your livelihood or loved ones probably grabs peoples' attention more so).

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    • I predict a huge bitch-fight between all the Daedric Princes and other things you served and that have claimed you up until the Dragonborn dies. That ought to be fun.

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    • HahnDragoner523 wrote:
      I predict a huge bitch-fight between all the Daedric Princes and other things you served and that have claimed you up until the Dragonborn dies. That ought to be fun.

      The Dragonborn's soul will likely just go to Akatosh, where he AE is most aligned. Besides, I am not so sure that an all out civil war in Oblivion would be in the best interest of the Princes. It would indeed be fun if it did happen, though, I just do not see it occuring. 

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    • Fans gotta pressure Bethesda so that they make it happen xD

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    • I'd like to think that once the dragonborn dies, his soul is ripped apart by all the dieties he's aligned himself with, resulting that his soul is torn into so many pieces that he simply cease to exist.

      That's how I see it, god rivalry is not something you want to mess with.

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    • I will go to Hermaeus Mora, my Elven mage is literally a walking library.

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    • I shall wind up in a soul gem for eternity in some vampire's library. Life sucks for the Dovakiin :(

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    • You cannot soul trap a dragon or dragonborn lel.

      Many possibilities, all already listed

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    • I believe the Dragonborn will live and fight honorably and go to Sovngarde when he/she dies. Hermaeus Mora may've given the Dragonborn Miraak's status...but the Dragonborn never actually bound him/herself to him.

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    • The Last Dragonborn eats hundreds of dragons, making him the largest soulstack of dragon souls on Nirn. This in and of itself is a case for apotheosis, considering it's one of the walking ways. That said, if the Last Dragonborn chose not to be a god, he'd likely go to whichever afterlife he so damn pleased, seeing as I doubt it's within the power of a Daedric Prince to claim a massive shard of the Time Dragon. Unless of course he was killed by another dragon, in which case it would be the end of the line.

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    • Implying the Dragonborn is going to die. Nahw, my Altmer will continue being the only Dragonborn, and in a hundred years or so call himself Talos and ascending as a divine.

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    • I assume that the Dovahkiin will either kill a Daedric Prince and take their plane of Oblivion, or just make a new plane there. Either way, they'll probably ascend to some kind of divinity.

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    • Everyone keeps saying things like the dragonborn's soul will be ripped apart by all the daedric princes, but doing a quest for a daedric prince does not mean you've pledged your sole to them, unless you did (like the nightingales), but otherwise you've just done one or two quests for a daedric lord for loot, I wouldn't exactly call that devout. 

      Either way I remember reading somewhere that only the main questlines are canon, so yeah.

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    • More importantly the LDB is a Prisoner. This means he's like Mundo. He goes where he pleases.

      Side note: Sithis is not a being. He's physics. Mephala runs the DB.

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    • how about the dragonborn goes VL and doesnt die at all?

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    • I'd like to think my Dragonborn will go full God of War on the Daedric Princes, brutally slaying them one by one. After all like Kratos he was only using them to get powerful items and advance his personal goals, not be their Champion errand boy.

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    • Maybe the dragon born uses serana/harkon to become a vampire Lord and live for eternity to fight off dragons

      I've never heard that theory but it's interesting

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    • 173.91.162.204 wrote:
      Maybe the dragon born uses serana/harkon to become a vampire Lord and live for eternity to fight off dragons

      I've never heard that theory but it's interesting

      VL are killable , so either way the DB will die sooner or later , and then , he will just open the gate of oblivioon and sovengarde beofre dying and light up a WW III XD then maybe kill all beings in hiricine's land and f***ing move his ass and chill with his dragons lol

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    • My Dragonborn wants to go Sovngarde but i wouldn't mind the last dragonborn to become a immortal vampire and serve molag bal. >:D

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    • I feel like Akatosh may step in considering the Last Dragonborn has been a good boy/girl and has actually done the job they were given their dragon blood for. That is of course, if they haven't openly pledged themselves to one or more Daedric Princes. 

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    • Datadragon Seraphim wrote:
      You cannot soul trap a dragon or dragonborn lel.

      In Dawnguard, when you have to go to the Soul Cairn, you have a choice of being partially Soul Trapped or becoming a vampire, as the living cannot enter (save for a few exceptions). ANYWAY my point is that if The Last Dragonborn can be partially Soul Trapped, couldn't they, and by extension other Dragonborn, be fully Soul Trapped?

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    • 112.198.82.247 wrote:
      So, i was wondering, that regardless of which diety(Sithis, other Daedric Princes, etc.) you pledged yourself into and after killing Alduin, i was wondering what is your character's fate after you killed Miraak and took his place as Herma-Mora's Champion, will he/she end up a servant to him forever, like Miraak before his death?

      Meh. I installed undeath mod so I don't have to worry 'bout death. Doubt that counts cuz it's just a mod, but whatever.

      (P.S. technically I got an extension to the mod which, among other things, gives unlimited respawn)

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    • My character grabbed some books from his realm that explain how to form a republic and advocated for a new system of government. 

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    • I'm imagining my dragonborn dying, becoming the dadric prince of dragons and some other stuff and the dragonsouls she consumed became their servants and just sent them back to their bodys to reign chaos when he/she got bored or her champion and followers wanted help.She would also wage war on other dadric princes that got on her nerves (like Hermaeus Mora and  Nocturnal) to steal their power and followers.She be feared and respected in both Tamriel and Oblivion.

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    • Fate unknown after Dragonborn DLC. Likely Haermaeus Mora's Champion if he couldn't stand the temptation of the knowledge offered by the Daedric Prince from the looks of things.

      As for other Daedric Princes, whether they are canon or not, I don't know so it's uncertain. Then there's the claim that Dragonborn is actually a Dragon in human body which by the lore seems to imply Dragons are lesser extend a God. Not given a choice, answer is uncertain.

      Given choice which means head canons are allowed and if you ask me, I say become a god yourself. If that shrimp Tiber Septim can cheat his way to become a God, the Dragonborn can do the same too. Hell, the LDB has all the conditions to become a 2nd Tiber Septim and unify all of Tamriel if he so choose.

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    • Fact is Mora makes you his Champion even if you don't want anything to do with him, which really ticked me off almost as much as when he was killing Storn, I actually drew my blade and tried to cut his tentacles off of the poor man. When I was a Nord hero type, I wanted nothing to do with the Daedra, though I will admit I did the theives guild out of boredom. I even had the impulse that if the founder of the Empire was a Dragonborn, why can't another one take the throne? Then I just dismissed the idea however. I would have liked to talk to Akatosh just once since he makes you Dragonborn. Or even Talos himself since well, like you he is a Dragonborn, and despite what the Thalmor say with their propaganda he is a God by Akatosh's coven which mentions that you should not slack in worship of the 9 or the barrior separating the world from Oblivion will wane. The fact Daedra activity is occuring in Skyrim when Talos worshipping is slacking is proof that the Thalmor are wrong about Talos. They dont' care however they want the Empire to fall and the Aldmeri Dominion be the next empire to rule the world. I hope ES6 you finally bring the fight to their doorstep.

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