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I wish there was another way to resolve the Paarthurnax quest

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I wish there was another way to resolve the Paarthurnax quest

  • Because he's awesome, and I hate The Blades. I'd rather there be an option to abandon The Blades, or even kill them. Much better than having that quest just sitting there if you don't want to kill him.

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    • I say screw the Blades. Delphine goes against the Blades rules by abandoning you. Paarthurnax helped you more than she did.

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    • Goldflame33 wrote:
      I say screw the Blades. Delphine goes against the Blades rules by abandoning you. Paarthurnax helped you more than she did.

      Exactly, I want to kill her. Esbern not so much, but I wouldn't be opposed to shouting him off Sky Haven as well.

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    • Are you on PC?A noble modder did a mod called The Paarthurnax Dillemma,which allows Delphine to be subjugated by the mortal dragon so that Paarthurnax can live.

      He is alive right now,basking in his own awesomeness.

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    • Sky Above,Voice Within wrote:
      Are you on PC?A noble modder did a mod called The Paarthurnax Dillemma,which allows Delphine to be subjugated by the mortal dragon so that Paarthurnax can live.

      He is alive right now,basking in his own awesomeness.

      Sadly I am on PS3. 

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    • I never kill him i alway go though all the dialogue options and say no and the quest disapears from my journal after a while (just checked and confirmed for two characters on my PS3).

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    • AzuraKnight wrote:
      I never kill him i alway go though all the dialogue options and say no and the quest disapears from my journal after a while (just checked and confirmed for two characters on my PS3).

      Cool. It'll be nice to have that out of my quest log.

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    • I should ride him to sky haven temple, and use his awesomeness to remove the blades' essentialily.

      Let the slaughter begin.

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    • I recently killed him on my second character, and I felt awful about it.

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    • Goldflame33 wrote:
      I recently killed him on my second character, and I felt awful about it.

      I did once too! It was a traumatizing experience! 

      Never again.

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    • Deadpool710 wrote:
      I should ride him to sky haven temple, and use his awesomeness to remove the blades' essentialily.

      Let the slaughter begin.


      Unfortunately, Bend Will does not work on Paarthurnax, Odahviing, or Durnehviir.

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    • Yeah I was always disappointed by the Blades closed-minded attitudes toward Paarthurnax.  They refuse to let go of age-old hatred for crimes that didn't even affect them directly, and that he ultimately helped to rectify, and yet refuse to acknowledge his good deeds and the long centuries spent teaching his philosophy of peace.

      The Blades are genocidal maniacs who blindly follow the ancient prejudices of long-dead people whose hatred stemmed from a time of oppression and cruelty that has long since passed.  Their creed is no longer necessary or justifiable in the fourth era.


      I always wished that the "Paarthurnax" quest would've allowed me to either reason with the Blades, or intimidate them into submission by telling them what backwards muderous psychopaths they were, and that I, as Dragonborn, wouldn't allow them to continue down their genocidal path.  Either they would see reason, or I would stop them by any means necessary.

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    • Amen to that ^

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    • Thank you for your opinion Delphine, I accept your resignation. Now GET OUT OF MY TEMPLE.

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    • Death to paarthernax. wtf it's free dragon soul and he is easy to kill and he's a fricking dragon so let's just kill him and apologies to the grey beards

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    • 24.236.170.22 wrote: Death to paarthernax. wtf it's free dragon soul and he is easy to kill and he's a fricking dragon so let's just kill him and apologies to the grey beards

      I'm so sorry for that just killed him felt terrible and can't reload last save I accidentally deleated it so now the greybeards hate me I feel so sad and I don't want to speak with the blades so I just lost both factions and paarthernax died in vane
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    • Wait a minute, Delphine. I thought the Blades served the Dragonborn, not the other way around?

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    • If there was no such thing as essential, I will go into sky haven temple with my exploit character and ultimate overkill everything inside with repeated firestorms until all is dust - Paarthurnax is way better than the blades as he's one of the three good dragons...

      In fact, I'd support the Thalmor in their attempts to kill all the blades (I don't support them otherwise).

      The blades are history, friendly dragons that help you are the paths of the future - I doubt a couple of blades are better than a dragon army against an AD invasion.

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    • kill paarthurnax to resolve the quest then use console comands, click the dead paarthurnax to get his code then type resurrect.

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    • I'd never do this to Paarthunax i mean- he did so much more for me than The Blades. All The Blades did was tell me what shout to use for Alduin... Paarthunax was actually helpful. Just going to ignore that quest... And besides Paarthunax is now helping you... I mean so what.. he USED to be in the Dragon War siding with Alduin USED to be

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    • Ravyn Uvenim13 wrote:
      Deadpool710 wrote:
      I should ride him to sky haven temple, and use his awesomeness to remove the blades' essentialily.

      Let the slaughter begin.


      Unfortunately, Bend Will does not work on Paarthurnax, Odahviing, or Durnehviir.

      It works on Odahviing. I always ride Odahviing and kill all the Thalmor. I am not sure about Paarthurnax and Durnehviir, though.

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    • I keep going back to the temple just to see if they have gotten over themselves, but to no avail. Parthy is still sitting on that mountain enjoying his excellance we still talk every now and again. Oh and the quest is closed out on my PC.Laslo451 (talk) 19:25, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

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    • As far as I'm concerned, there is only one solution.

      When the Blades give you the quest, type

      setstage MQPaarthurnax 100

      into console. Mission is completed, Paarthurnax is alive, and you can continue with the Blades without alienating the Greybeards. Best of all possible worlds.

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    • dragonborn slay dragons get over it......buch of oath breaking scoundrels on this board hahaha

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    • 86.144.255.30 wrote:
      dragonborn slay dragons get over it......buch of oath breaking scoundrels on this board hahaha

      A dragonborn is able to kill permanently a dragon & absord its knowledge. Being able to do not mean that you have to.

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    • 85.115.60.180 wrote:
      86.144.255.30 wrote:
      dragonborn slay dragons get over it......buch of oath breaking scoundrels on this board hahaha
      A dragonborn is able to kill permanently a dragon & absord its knowledge. Being able to do not mean that you have to.

      i,ll drink to that, i could never kill paarthurnax.

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    • Besides, you cn just do theBlades quests before Season unending, then once they tell you to murder Paarthurnax, kill them in the face

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    • paarthurnax is too awsome, i could never raise my blade against him

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    • I like the Blades and Paarthy. I thought that asking me to kill him was a bit extreme but I don't hold it against them. Then again, the fact that they abandon you completely if you don't is really annoying.

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    • What would Jauffre say about this? Especially with Delphine abusing her ways as a Blade.

      For me, killing Paarthurnax would be like killing Yoda to complete your training.

      Oh and on a more humorous take on the matter, this was my brother's response to Delphine's order: F*** you! I'm NOT killing Mario.

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    • Blades can suck my dragon balls, i aint killing my buddy

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    • Delphine would go into sudden deqth mode if she found out about Odahving.

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    • I have been trying very desperately to find a way around this to keep both factions happy. If I can't, I'm choosing Paarthurnax. He's like my happy granddaddy dragon. I'm nit killing granddaddy dragon!

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    • what i finally did, was once i killed alduin and paarthiax said he was going to take leadership, i took that as a sign of either the dragons aren't listening, or he's continuing alduins work, for more dragon attacks, so i based it off that on him needing to die =P and not feel as bad

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    • Remind me not to even go near The Blades.

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    • Ogamirama wrote: Remind me not to even go near The Blades.

      Well, one, you have to, and two, they hate the Thalmor. So, do I side with a bunch of phalli, or do I let the pointy-eared fucks continue their existence?

      There's your Paarthurnax Dilemma right there.

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    • IncinerateChicken wrote:

      Ogamirama wrote: Remind me not to even go near The Blades.

      Well, one, you have to, and two, they hate the Thalmor. So, do I side with a bunch of phalli, or do I let the pointy-eared fucks continue their existence?

      There's your Paarthurnax Dilemma right there.

      I don't exactly have to, if it's a part of the main questline then I just won't do it. Besides, I do enjoy not having Dragon's constantly attack Whiterun and getting everyone killed anyways.

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    • i killed him and now theres no more dragons to fight

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    • But still f**the greybeards they ar lame

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    • paarthurnax was close to death anyways

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    • just chose to end his suffering

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    • if you ignore the quest for killing paarthunax it will disappear from the quest journal

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    • UltraFuel wrote: if you ignore the quest for killing paarthunax it will disappear from the quest journal

      ...No. That isn't how quests work.

      And AWC 208936233 needs to stop spamming the thread. I am willing to cast Conjure Unbound Moderator, you know.

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    • i know

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    • but that is how only this quest work

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    • OR,maybe i am wrong

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    • You are wrong. Stop spamming the thread.

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    • The Blades were SO much better in Oblivion than in Skyrim! In Oblivion they actually help you get to Paradise and fight Mankar.

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    • i hate the Blades

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    • Raven biter 114 wrote:
      The Blades were SO much better in Oblivion than in Skyrim! In Oblivion they actually help you get to Paradise and fight Mankar.

      In Oblivion, The Blades actually serve the Dragonborn and not order him/her around.

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    • Seriously. Where the balls do your servants get off telling you to do things?

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    • didn't read every post on the thread, so I think someone might've already said this. Technically, that is your temple and yours alone, and you could close the doors and seal it with dragon blood. Either lock them out or lock them in, AND they are part of an organisation dedicated to serving the dragonborn, so shunning him for making a decision is really funny. I like delphine as a character, but from that one decision to have him killed, she became an ass-hole. Yet I still want to be in the blades AND the grey-beards little group T_T

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    • Puggles52 wrote:
      didn't read every post on the thread, so I think someone might've already said this. Technically, that is your temple and yours alone, and you could close the doors and seal it with dragon blood. Either lock them out or lock them in, AND they are part of an organisation dedicated to serving the dragonborn, so shunning him for making a decision is really funny. I like delphine as a character, but from that one decision to have him killed, she became an ass-hole. Yet I still want to be in the blades AND the grey-beards little group T_T

      Yup, and in their eyes, they own you. Didn't Delphine say that she was the Grandmaster of The Blades or something? If that's so, then shes really letting it get to her head.

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    • Ogamirama wrote:
      Yup, and in their eyes, they own you. Didn't Delphine say that she was the Grandmaster of The Blades or something? If that's so, then shes really letting it get to her head.

      haven't gotten to that part in skyrim before, so if possible, just lead them to a cliff and fus ro dah her off a cliff. she won't die cause she's essential, though its fun. and if I'm wrong, even better. also, question about this. is there a way to tell the greybeards or the dragon himself that the blades want me to do this or tell delphine that I don't want to, or do I have to ignore that quest forever to avoid doing that?

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    • So far as I know, there is no option to save Paarthurnax. Aside from mods, of course.

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    • Aarsedez wrote:
      So far as I know, there is no option to save Paarthurnax. Aside from mods, of course.

      And not doing the quest.

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    • Raven biter 114 wrote:
      Aarsedez wrote:
      So far as I know, there is no option to save Paarthurnax. Aside from mods, of course.
      And not doing the quest.

      True, true. But that one is kind of a given. 

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    • The only use The Blades give me now are their swords and armor and such, I refuse to even interact with them unless it's part of the main questline.. Ugh.

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    • As much as I'd like to see how the Blades quests will continue if you DO kill Paarthunax, I'm afraid I'll have to pass. Honestly, if there was an option to just ignore the quest entirely, I'd go for that.

      Seriously, why does Delphine want the Dragonborn to kill Paarthunax that badly? She's being bias imo; just because said dragon helped Alduin before. Paarthunax already made amends, so wtf right? Can't everyone just forget the past and move on for a brighter future?

      Sure Paarthunax MIGHT turn evil, seeing as we don't know what his true motives are for helping the Dragonborn. Hell, when he announced that he'll be the new leader for the dragons, that already gives a clear sign that "I'm in fact an evil overlord in the inside, you foolish mortals. HAHAHAHA!". If Paarthunax does become evil, then I'll gladly kill him, but until then, I'd rather kill Delphine, cuz she's an asshole. At least Esbern's still ok.

      Plus, it's interesting to find out what'll happen if I Fus Roh Da her of the Sky Haven Temple. Haven't done that to any NPCs in a while. :/

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    • 121.54.32.141 wrote:
      As much as I'd like to see how the Blades quests will continue if you DO kill Paarthunax, I'm afraid I'll have to pass. Honestly, if there was an option to just ignore the quest entirely, I'd go for that.

      After you recruit three followers to The Blades, then it's pretty much just dragon slaying missions.

      I know what you mean about passing on the quest. I never kill Paarthunax, he helps you more than The Blades do.

      121.54.32.141 wrote: Plus, it's interesting to find out what'll happen if I Fus Roh Da her of the Sky Haven Temple.

      I've done that. It was after Season Unending.

      Delphine was bitching at me for refusing to kill Paarthunax. ("We won't help you if you don't do what we want.") So I 'Fus Ro Da-ed' her off the mountain. I, carefully, followed her down the mountain, using Fus Ro Da on her when I could. I ended up 'Fus Ro Da-ing' her almost all the way to Whiterun. Oddly enough, she never became hostile.

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    • DragonGirl2571 wrote:

      121.54.32.141 wrote:
      As much as I'd like to see how the Blades quests will continue if you DO kill Paarthunax, I'm afraid I'll have to pass. Honestly, if there was an option to just ignore the quest entirely, I'd go for that.

      After you recruit three followers to The Blades, then it's pretty much just dragon slaying missions.

      I know what you mean about passing on the quest. I never kill Paarthunax, he helps you more than The Blades do.


      121.54.32.141 wrote: Plus, it's interesting to find out what'll happen if I Fus Roh Da her of the Sky Haven Temple.

      I've done that. It was after Season Unending.

      Delphine was bitching at me for refusing to kill Paarthunax. ("We won't help you if you don't do what we want.") So I 'Fus Ro Da-ed' her off the mountain. I, carefully, followed her down the mountain, using Fus Ro Da on her when I could. I ended up 'Fus Ro Da-ing' her almost all the way to Whiterun. Oddly enough, she never became hostile.

      I attacked Esbern out of hatred for both him and Delphine, and while I was watching him recover on the ground I noticed that he never became hostile at all. I haven't done anything with The Blades aside from the main questline, so I have no idea how he'd react if I got Paarthurnax. Oh, and I love not doing anything with their small pathetic questline, because it means I can basically take anything I want in the Temple without it being marked as stolen, woo!

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    • the first time i killed paarthunax, i just got back from sovengard, i wondered why his body didn`t evaperate like alduins did. but i feelt reely bad when i killed him though. the last time i felt so bad was when i found out that astrid betrayed the darkbrootherhood and almost evryone died.

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    • 172.56.21.130 wrote:
      the first time i killed paarthunax, i just got back from sovengard, i wondered why his body didn`t evaperate like alduins did. but i feelt reely bad when i killed him though. the last time i felt so bad was when i found out that astrid betrayed the darkbrootherhood and almost evryone died.

      I love The Dark Brotherhood. Whenever I join a guild in a game there's always one person that I hate and want to kill, but The Dark Brotherhood? I liked all of them, they were 'nice' to me, and through the questline, they all ended up becoming my buddies.. Why did that have to happen? e_e I feel like with their deaths, my character's going to become the next Cicero, just look at him! He lost pretty much everything aside from The Night Mother, and now he's insane. And besides.. I already have the Jester's Clothes so I could pull it off.

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    • A-91 wrote: What would Jauffre say about this? Especially with Delphine abusing her ways as a Blade.

      For me, killing Paarthurnax would be like killing Yoda to complete your training.

      Oh and on a more humorous take on the matter, this was my brother's response to Delphine's order: F*** you! I'm NOT killing Mario.

      Pfft. I said the same thing.

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    • There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding Paarthurnax and the Dragon Born, which is surprising given this wiki explains them prety well.

      Whatever the dragons were doing to mortals in the past under Alduin was so bad that Paarthurnax decided it had to stop so sided with the mortals. He helped teach the mortals how to use the thrum (dragon shouts) which was the only way they were able to turn the tide on Alduin and his forces. He isolated himself on top of the mountain and started the greybeards to help control his inherit lust for power so as not to harm mortals. Although he likely was responsible for killing countless mortals under Alduin rule he is also responsible for saving over 4 eras worth of mortals from such fates.

      The Dragon Born, as the name suggests, is a dragon. The only difference is a mortal body and their power originates from a different diety. The dragon born also suffers the same sort of problems as dragons such as Paarthurnax, an insatiable lust for power. This can be seen by all the stuff you end up doing throughout the game, often comming at the expense of killing mortals. This alone is why you should side with the greybeards and not listen to anything the Blades tell you to do as they basically want you to become the new Alduin. Why they do not let you physically transform into a dragon temporarilly (instead of just riding one) I do not know, however I am guessing its because the dragon mechanics are clunky and terrible so would not translate as well to user control as werewolf does.

      Killing Paarthurnax for things he did would mean that someone should kill the dragon born for what he/she has done. After all they end up killing hundreds of bandits, rebles, soldiers and necromancers and some times using their souls to enhance their gear.

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    • Personaly I think the reason they don't give you much of an option is because canonolgy you will have killed pathy.

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    • 81.157.168.179 wrote:
      There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding Paarthurnax and the Dragon Born, which is surprising given this wiki explains them prety well.

      Whatever the dragons were doing to mortals in the past under Alduin was so bad that Paarthurnax decided it had to stop so sided with the mortals. He helped teach the mortals how to use the thrum (dragon shouts) which was the only way they were able to turn the tide on Alduin and his forces. He isolated himself on top of the mountain and started the greybeards to help control his inherit lust for power so as not to harm mortals. Although he likely was responsible for killing countless mortals under Alduin rule he is also responsible for saving over 4 eras worth of mortals from such fates.

      The Dragon Born, as the name suggests, is a dragon. The only difference is a mortal body and their power originates from a different diety. The dragon born also suffers the same sort of problems as dragons such as Paarthurnax, an insatiable lust for power. This can be seen by all the stuff you end up doing throughout the game, often comming at the expense of killing mortals. This alone is why you should side with the greybeards and not listen to anything the Blades tell you to do as they basically want you to become the new Alduin. Why they do not let you physically transform into a dragon temporarilly (instead of just riding one) I do not know, however I am guessing its because the dragon mechanics are clunky and terrible so would not translate as well to user control as werewolf does.

      Killing Paarthurnax for things he did would mean that someone should kill the dragon born for what he/she has done. After all they end up killing hundreds of bandits, rebles, soldiers and necromancers and some times using their souls to enhance their gear.

      I've yet to see any info about any dragonborn in history (or any other entity) actually being able to transform from human to dragon (or vice versa). Pretty sure it's not a thing. The only game writings on the topic are the nonsensical bard's college verses which isn't evidence, of course. 

      If you're going to say Martin Septim, that was obviously more the divine than anything else. 

      Also from most moral standpoints in reality as well as the elder scrolls series, killing bandits, criminals, necromancers, and soldiers is VASTLY INCOMPARABLE to enslaving untold numbers of innocents so.... yea that whole paragraph is nonsense TBH. 

      The soldiers (stormcloak or imperial) killing is the only one thats even morally arguable but only ever so slightly. Disregarding what I believe personally, the vast majority of characters in skyrim support the death of the opposing faction and would probably hail anyone who kills large amounts of those soldiers as a hero. Probably tuned according to existing real world nationalist zelotry.

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