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  • I have invested a lot in marcurio...are there better mages out there than him?! i have been with marcurio for along time, he's often stronger than me in combat, i just wanted to know, is there some better mage than him? in Skyrim?

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    • Serana - chain lightning as well, much nicer on the eyes than Marcurio, has good skill in light armor, has necromancy, handy with a sword too. She can sneak and she is unkillable.

      J'zargo - cosmic khajit pimp lord with suckkier magic but double the HP, slick skills in heavy armor and swords, 100 in many skills. Give him some daedric plate and he'll swag the game.

      Eola - can cast expert destruction, although only rarely, using both incinerate and thunderbolt. Give her some magicka boosts and watch her blow enemies sky high

      If you count dead thralls, Malkoran is the one (although getting him his overcomplicated and involves going in and out of Kilkreath ruins many times). Grandmaster of the ices that becomes an axe crazy dragon priest travesty WHENEVER he dies again (if you raise him and he dies, his shade spawns and attacks everything, including you. This can repeat many times!)

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    • I have tested around with other mages, Marcurio seems to do much more damage, plus, he can take on Ancient Dragons with me, J'zargo was killed when my other follower blew him off a cliff with Unrelenting Force and Serana killed several of my followers. Marcurio is better if you want a follower that can do massive damage from behind when you take them head on. If you want a Spell-Sword, the man up for hire in the Winking Skeever is a nice choice.

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    • When I was 58lvl I tested  J'zargo and Marcurio on giant with same armor. Marcurio killed giant, but J'zargo not)

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    • Teldryn is a better spellsword than Belrand

      Macurio is pure DPS, but he sucks otherwise. If you need a tank, he's a bad choice.

      Serana is good, very good, with nearly perfect aim, but she seems to enjoy collateral damage.

      I mean like if you are level 151 and you want a follower that dosen't get killed by all the OP stuff that is spawning, you probably want someone essential.

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    • Datadragon Odahviing wrote:
      Teldryn is a better spellsword than Belrand

      Macurio is pure DPS, but he sucks otherwise. If you need a tank, he's a bad choice.

      Serana is good, very good, with nearly perfect aim, but she seems to enjoy collateral damage.

      I mean like if you are level 151 and you want a follower that dosen't get killed by all the OP stuff that is spawning, you probably want someone essential.

      Aren't all followers essential during their time of following?

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    • 109.128.43.214 wrote:

      Aren't all followers essential during their time of following?

      No. Try and see! Use your cosmic sword to attack a non essential follower (e.g. Lydia the loved) and watch them perish is flame, frost, shock and red mists!

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    • If you're at the level where the cost for Marcurio is a lot, he definitely is the best sole magic. non DLC, he is one of the best at dealing damage, and how I play I tank and he kills, so he's prettty good depending on how you want to play him

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    • Datadragon Odahviing wrote:

      109.128.43.214 wrote:

      Aren't all followers essential during their time of following?

      No. Try and see! Use your cosmic sword to attack a non essential follower (e.g. Lydia the loved) and watch them perish is flame, frost, shock and red mists!

      Followers can't be killed by hostiles but they can be killed by friendly fire and (I believe) fall damage. I've lost a lot of followers by having them step right in front of the crosshairs right before I fire an arrow.

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    • Marcurio is the best range mage he is not attent to close combat not easy to kill but very strong follower Everyone that look for a mage follower theme don't look furter you found it MARCURIO And lastly he has the highest dmg output ;)

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    • The reason why followers look like they cannot die is because enemies will usually stop attacking a follower who is on his knees but if that follower gets hit again (accidentally) while on his knees he will die... Fighting just 1 or a few enemies probably won't get your follower accidentally hit when he is on his knees but if you have a lot of enemies trying to hit you all at once and your follower was kneeling and got hit then he'd die...

      I love mages more than melee fighters and I have an all magic group with me but my favorite mage follower is Serana and no one else. When it comes to mage dead thralls Orchendor is hands down the best one there is, next is Sild the Warlock then Malkoran...

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    • As far as I've played, which means through most of the side-quests, all the story and major storylines in non-DLC, Marcurio cannot be beat by another mage. IDK about DLC followers though

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    • To be honest I really don't find any of the mage followers powerful at all, specially the pure mage ones. Melee followers are always more powerful than mage followers except for the fact that mages can attack multiple enemies in a bunch with area of effect spells...

      Orchendor and Malkoran as Dead Thralls actually seem more powerful to me compared to mage followers. I guess it's because they are actually enemy boss NPCs. :p

      Don't get me wrong though, I actually like mages more and I play as a mage that only resorts to bows when enemies are still far. It just seems unfair how you can easily give your melee followers the strongest enhanced and enchanted weapons but your mage followers would have to relly on their skills and perks. Sometimes their spells can just be too underpowered.

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    • If you give them the right enchanted armour it can help. And I've just always found, in my playthroughs, that having a healer is quite helpful. Personally, I play melee and end up accidentally finishing off melee allies all too often...

      The real answer is wait for Elswyr then play that.

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    • Never have Marcurio with you if you have a Dog along with you. Eventually his Chain Lightning will end up hitting the dog and then they'll start fighting in a battle in which the dog literally cannot win. It's happened two times for me '-'

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    • I rarely travel with a dog, but yeah, that can happen, and occasionally he feuds with people you have to ally yourself with for missions, rarely but sometimes causing you to fail that mission. Had Belrand do the same to me once tho...

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    • Iamthelegion wrote:
      I rarely travel with a dog, but yeah, that can happen, and occasionally he feuds with people you have to ally yourself with for missions, rarely but sometimes causing you to fail that mission. Had Belrand do the same to me once tho...

      Wow, that's even worse! Mage Followers are awesome, but sometimes I think it's just better to be a Mage and have a Melee or Archer Follower. Or, none at all.

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    • Personally, I just use followers to carry back-up swords and potions in the rare opportunities I need them, and any ores/other materials for smithing I pick up, I tend to have them sit out for the actual fights.

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    • If you are a mage and your follower is a melee fighter, you would end up hitting them. When you are a melee fighter and your follower is a mage he/she ends up hitting you... Better be either all long range or all melee if you want to avoid friendly fire. That or you really have to be extremely careful.

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    • If you have the Dragonborn DLC, you can get the "Companion's Insight" skill from a Black Book.  It prevents you from doing damage to your follower.  After accidentally killing Lydia and Janessa, this has saved me a lot of hassle.

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    • This is a bit of a old thead but Companion's Insight is a bit buggy so may or may not work right.

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    • 174.64.3.31 wrote:

      Datadragon Odahviing wrote:

      109.128.43.214 wrote:

      Aren't all followers essential during their time of following?

      No. Try and see! Use your cosmic sword to attack a non essential follower (e.g. Lydia the loved) and watch them perish is flame, frost, shock and red mists!
      Followers can't be killed by hostiles but they can be killed by friendly fire and (I believe) fall damage. I've lost a lot of followers by having them step right in front of the crosshairs right before I fire an arrow.


      They can get killed by humaniod hostile but they will just ingnore them while theire down but somnetimes they will attack ur follower when down and kill ur follower insttantly

      dont forget about dragons when they shout at you when ur near to your follower they will die.

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    • I dunno i dont like followers sometimes thats why i go alone.

      reasons:

      MAGES:  Benefits:

      Good followers for combat

      a little bit smart a.i

      Disbenifits:

      youy can get hit by theire spell even marcurio he uses chain lighting which can hit you even your daedras.

      they cant heal you but some of them can.

      Warriors:

      Benefits:

      Theire eager to fight.

      best follower is lydia who is a warrior.

      DIsbenifets:

      when fighting a strong enemy (1 of them) you will hit you followers bcs your near them.

      They gonna get killed in combat sometimes.(like lydia got killed by bandits)

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    • Well, I certainly dislike Marcurio for he usually gets in my way or annoys me with his trading-phrase... (I am an apprenticed wizard, not a pack mule)

      For this reason I prefer Belrand, he provides the Melee tactics that I lack and always make me smile when trading with him. (Do I get to keep it? Nah, just kidding.)

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    • I hardly ever use any followers besides Serana. She isn't very powerful but she is pretty good at distracting enemies. Also, something about her seems to work better in SE - she gets noticed a lot less when we're sneaking than she did in regular edition.

      So if she does indeed count as a mage follower, she's my pick. DPS is usually my character's thing anyway. My latest playthrough in SE is a stealthy conjurer and Serana is doing very well as her follower.

      Also, I never seem to get hurt much by friendly fire. Is it because I mostly play as Bretons?

      Edit: I did try Marcurio and J'zargo, but both kind of let me down. Marcurio kept shouting "Burn the vampire!" when the only vampire was my character, while J'zargo ran away in fear from some forsworn.

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    • I preffer Erandur...he's not only a great mage, he talks a lot, is very friendly... and I like that in a follower.

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    • 109.128.43.214 wrote:
      Datadragon Odahviing wrote:
      Teldryn is a better spellsword than Belrand

      Macurio is pure DPS, but he sucks otherwise. If you need a tank, he's a bad choice.

      Serana is good, very good, with nearly perfect aim, but she seems to enjoy collateral damage.

      I mean like if you are level 151 and you want a follower that dosen't get killed by all the OP stuff that is spawning, you probably want someone essential.

      Aren't all followers essential during their time of following?

      That's only certain followers, like Serana, ore Frea or.... any other essential followers out there? 

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    • Followers are a certain kind of essential. While the true essential followers are limited to Serana, Frea, and a handful of others, all followers share a similar ability to be invincible from enemies (except in a few rare glitches). They are essential in combat, but they can be killed by the player, glitches, and if they become hostile to someone else that is not an enemy (who then kills them).

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    • j'zargo

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    • what about the female mage in winterhold

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    • Marcurio is really good, and he's my go to until he's capped.  I also like Serana, though her refusal to open chests totally annoys me since my lockpicking skills are nonexistent and her tendancy to reanimate everything bothers me, especially when one of her creations follows me home and disintegrates in my house.  I now have a permanent pile of ash in my living room floor, complements of Serana.  J'zargo is also good.  I'm on a new play through and am going to be trying Belrand, the spellsword in the Winking Skeever and Erandur in Dawnstar after I do his quest.  Both seem like good options.

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