Welp, here we are again to address the elephant in the room...and by elephant, I mean huge flamer war I have stopped caring about about two months into playing Skyrim. But, some people still go on about it, so here we are. This is Blog Critic everybody, and we are going back into the Zipper Saga!
Alright, so if you read my last review of the first part of tis blog, you would know that Zippers blog here is a continuation of his last one where he refuted the arguments made by User: JoshofBlades, who I think wrote this blog a very long time ago actually. Apparently the whole reason Zippertrain85 joined the wikia was because he saw this one blog and took it upon himself to refute the points made. How did he fair the first time around? I admit, I didn't really like how Zipper refuted it, and I was going to give him a "Forgettable" rating, but I ended up giving him an "Average" simply because the blog he was refuting wasn't even that good to begin with. It's just sloppy, all over the place, and the same generic crap you here in every fan boy argument. But we are back for part 2. So fasten you seatbelts people. Were gonna see some serious S***. Remember, italic font is JoshofBlades original blog, Bold text is Zippers. Normal is mine.
Hello everyone, as you know a couple weeks ago I refuted part one of a three part series written by the blogger we hate to love JoshOfBlades (Yeah, I copied that from one of his other blogs, cry me a river). Well, as I said before at the end of it there are two other parts of the series. I will refute part 2 today. So, let's not waste any time.
"Let's begin, as stated in my last post, Ulfric's army is made up of Merc's and general Average Joe's of Skyrim. Now assuming he was able to force out the Legion garrison in Western Skyrim, how long do you think his untrained Rebel Army could hold power? Stormcloak Victory would bring much distress to Skyrim politically and violently, while each side has their ups and downs it can certainly be seen the Stormcloaks have many more downs than my beloved Empire."
And I explained why this is untrue. But I wll say it again. Galmar Stone-Fist specifically explains after you defeat the Ice wraith in the Stormcloak questline that the Stormcloaks only accept strong, dedicated, heroes who are commited to the cause. NOT just "Merc's and general Average Joe's".
"One such down is the blatent racism in their capital of Windhelm. The docks while productive are a sad site for the Argonians who inhabit it and work it for such minimal fees. As you may have noticed many Argonians and Khajiits aren't allowed in cities ruled by the Rebel Leadership, this is unacceptable! Sterotyping is a horrid way to classify, while it is known many Thives and Brigands belong to these races, it should also be noted some of the hardest workers come from their ranks as well, as they are forced to take on jobs for small pay and sweat for only a few Septims."
Oh great, I know this was coming. The classic racism argument, by far the most popular argument against the Stormcloaks. Let's break this down, shall we? Ulfric has no control over how much money the Argonians make. They work for Tobjorn Shatter-Shield, and if you talk to him about it, he'll actually imply that they didn't work as hard as he needed them too. Really? Only under Rebel leadership? Khajiit Caravans aen't allowed in the city by anyone, don't know why you're acting like only the Stormcloaks do this. That's because the Caravan sells drugs, regular Khajiits can enter cities freely, Stormcloak or Imperial. The Argonians can also enter the city, they just don't live in it. There homeless shelter is located on the docks since they work there. It's never been said they can't enter the city at all.
"Another note worthy fact are the Thalmor of the Aldmeri Dominion. Now it is known that Tamriel has always been united under the Empire but also has long been a wanted targer for Akaviri Kingdoms and Raiders. Tamriel's current state is disaturous to say the least. Let's take a deep evaluation province by province."
This whole idea is under the assumption that Empire was the only thing uniting Tamriel and that they could never unite again. Guess what Josh? The Elder Scrolls Online completely proves this theory wrong. Since the Nords, Dunmer & Argonians formed the Ebonheart Pact to originally stop Akaviri invaders, and guess what? There was no Empire.
He then goes on to list the whole the current state of every province in Tamriel, I'm not even going to go over that.
Alright, so let's see, going down the line. Zipper goes right into it and says he wrote a blog on this a couple weeks ago, refuting it...I think refuting may be a strong term to use. More like...unsuccessfully argue to a degree. More of a tie in my opinion...but I digress, and is returning to "Refute" that guy we all love to hate (Shamylan? Micheal Bay? Chris Rock? Justin Beiber?), JoshofBlades. To be honest, I didn't ever think of JoshofBlades as a prominent blog user, or even heard of the guy, not like people like Zipper himself, Psijic Thief, Sajjukar, or Madman97, like, the people everyone knows about, and others to be sure, but if Zipper knows about it, I suppose JoshohBlades was at one time prominent, (for five minutes when he wrote this), in the backlash he recieved for making his piece of crap blog. Onto the next paragraph.
So JoshofBlades argued that a unorganized rebel mob could not hold Skyrim or its holds for long against the Empire. Zipper retaliates by saying something he did in his last blog. The Stormcloaks only accept the stronget warriors and fighters, a fact I think many would disagree with, myself included. I tried pointing out to Zipper, and others as well, that Galmor Stone-Fist whatshisF*** would not say anything else and not every Stormcloak is a warrior to be reckoned with. I slaughtered twenty of the dudes when I stole a fifty gold coin of of an old lady and they tried to chase me down (I was playing a bit of a douchey character), and I was like level six. Maybe they get stronger as you go, and maybe gameplay doesn't equal lore, but nothing has been shown to me besides Galmor saying he only accepts strong soldiers that the Stormcloaks are really all that strong.
JoshofBlades then goes the stereotypical Imperial fanboy way and tried to take a crack at exposing the evil racism in Winterhold. Does he do it in his small paragraph? Uh....yeah, kind of. He gives the point the bet he can, props for him to do that, but then again, its not a very good arguement either. He kind of just says that since these bestial races are put in stereotypes, they are subjigated, but he really provides no evidence for such, leaving him wide open to someone like Zipper to take a swing at him. Does Zipper refute this argument? Well, he sees it coming essentially. He recognizes it as a classic argument. He breaks it down and gives actual evidence to dispute the claim that the argonians are not being treated as badly as some think they are, by saying that Ulfric does not control the pay of Argonians, but another does. Real Evidence! Hallelujah! He also gives the argument that the Khajjits and other races are allowed inside the city, just not the caravans because they are known to sell Skooma and Moon Sugar, something they actually do in the game, (Don't tell anyone, but I bought some for me and J'zargo). REAL EVIDENCE! This is what I've been waiting for! I can't wait to see what other intelligent arguments he has in store.
JoshofBlades makes the observatio that Tamriel is in chaos, and that the Empire united all of Tamriel to stop Akaviri Invaders and Raiders. And Zippertrain refutes this by!...Making a completely stupid argument! Oh haha, what did I expect any different? Haha.
Yeah, thanks for getting my hopes up.
So what is this stupid argument? Well, Zipper states that the Nords, Argonians, and Dunmer came together to repel Akaviri invaders, as shown in the Elder Scrolls Online, therefore showing up Josh's theory of needing an Empire to unite Tamriel. The problem with this argument? Wrong, it's completley wrong. I am not saying Tamriel needs an Empire to unite it...wait what am I saying? One government that rules all provinces of Tamriel in peace and in correlation with one another, the exact definition of an Empire, actually, yes, you do need an Empire to unite Tamriel, as in, all become part of the same kingdom. It doesn't have to be Allesia's Empire, but a one government dominion on Tamriel is what an Empire is. So, yes, you do need an Empire. But that's just nitpicking. My original point was going to be, and I know I am not supposed to refute the arguments, but judge the quality of them, but this requires some attention. Just because the northeast half of Tamriel united doesn't mean ALL of Tamriel united. If anything, Zipper, Elder Scrolls Online proved you wrong. When Josh is talking about Tamriel being united, I think he means ALL of Tamriel, including Summerset Isles, Hammerfell, Elsweyr, Morrowind, other places included, not a part of them. Tamriel is not united in Elder Scrolls Online. Tamriel is split into three factions dude, THREE! All fighting for Cyrodil! I don't think that's very united. And then Zipper states he doesn't need to refute Josh's evalutation of the different states of the provinces at this time? Why can't he? Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe he saw actual evidence he couldn't refute and left it out so he didn't look any less smart. Oh Zipper, you clever user. Moving on with the rest of the blog.
"Okay....... For the sake of not killing my finger's let's just shorten this a bit. Tamriel is in danger people. The less power hungry people we have vying for it the better. Despite your personal belifes on the Worship of Talos or Nord's ability to rule themselves, you must look at the bigger picture. A divided Tamriel is easy pickings for Akavir, and Pyandonea. Those are not the people we need ruling our day to day lives here. With the Empire at the helm in Skyrim we can begin to bring back the glory of Tiber Septim. Please on your adventures do things to help the Empire never hinder it. Tamriel need help and the Legion answers that call everyday."
So it's just basically an overhaul of eveyr point he made, which I refuted above. Just for my final thoughts of this, I already explained before how the Stormcloaks are the best hope for unity in Tamriel, since the Empire has pissed off too many provinces. Stick around for my review of part 3.
So Josh goes on this Dr. Suess's Lorax speech on how Tamriel is in trouble and people need to unite. I would tell Bethesda that Joshy old boy, not their divided fan base who would just as soon lynch themselves than band together. The generic Empire Wants You speech, you all know how it goes. Then Zipper responds the only way he could. By NOT calling out on this seemingly blatant example of opinion before fact, by NOT refuting it in any way other than just saying "Oh, he already said that," which I admit, is, but then does the same thing and says "Stormcloaks are better" as he had already "Explained" why they are, (Good one), as the Empire has made too many provinces mad. Yeah, Skyrim is really the vacation choice for many Dunmer, Argonians, Khajjit, and Orcs.
So Final verdict? (Drum roll please)
Final word: Come on Zipper! You've had good blogs in the past...I think...and this really is not our best work. I wanted to see you get by simply because the original blog was bad, which, it is, but I can't excuse you if you don't actually call out the genericness of his arguments once in a while, and your refuting arguments are the same generic stuff to. It wasn't the worst I have seen, but Zipper, you can definitly do better. I know you can. In one fleeting moment, you gave an intelligent argument! That's not to say all of yours have been completely stupid, but there is nothing genius about them either. Give evidence when the other guy doesn't! He is leaving a wide open ventalation shaft you can shoot your torpedo's down into and blow up his Death Star, but at the rate your going, you're just turning into the guy who said "It's away!...Negative, didn't go in." And work on wording your arguments carefully, cause that Elder Scrolls Online really threw me for a loop after you made a valid argument. You can do it Zipper. I believe in you. But were starting to come up on some of you last blogs, and your final verdict as a whole is not looking pretty. Blog Critic Out.