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Chairmanprescott6179

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January 23, 2013
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Welcome, Chairmanprescott6179!

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Hello Chairmanprescott6179, welcome to the Elder Scrolls Wiki! We're building a collaborative source of information for the Elder Scrolls, and we need your help.

We saw you making some changes to our articles, and thank you for it. Hope you choose to further this project, and that we'll see you around in the future. If you choose to stay, here are some links to help you out:

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---- TombRaiser (Talk) 23:28, January 23, 2013

Adding categoriesEdit

I noticed you adding the Category:Artifacts to pages, please do not add this category to pages. If it's a Skyrim page you only need to add Category:Skyrim: Artifacts. Thanks. —TombRaiser SPEAK! 01:13, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

All right, I will, but I have a question: what is the purpose of the Category: Artifacts page, if there are other category pages for the artifacts for each game Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 01:18, February 26, 2013
The purpose of that category is to list other artifact categories. —TombRaiser SPEAK! 01:20, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
All right then, I'll try not to make that mistake again. Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 01:24, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

Dwemer CleanupEdit

Hey man, nice job on the work on the Dwemer page! I really like the info you've added. I was wondering if you can fix the references so instead of duplicates of Dwarves, v1, for example, its one reference with multiple citations. Also, I was wondering if you could find where the info is from under the section about Dwemer being "as powerful as the gods". There is a citation needed template next to of the sentences. There is also a problem with a citation error where there is ref called "dwarfsv1". Lastly, if you need any help on the Dwemer page or creation of the Dwemeris page, I'll be happy to help.

AutoBlood (talk) 21:57, March 7, 2013 (UTC)


Thank you man, I appreciate the compliment. I will try to fix the references to cleanup the page; I think I remember that the in-game book Dwarves, v1 says that the Dwemer were as powerful as the Gods. Either that, or I may have accidentally added fanon. I've been trying to focus on a lot of pages on this wiki, as there is a huge number of pages on the wiki, but I really just seem to be focusing on one or two pages at a time in order to make those pages as best as they can be; and again, thanks for the compliments. Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 01:46, March 8, 2013 (UTC)

Overlapping categories Edit

Hi Prescott, Please don't add overlapping categories to articles, such as adding both Category:Artifacts and Category:Skyrim: Artifacts. Just Category:Skyrim: Artifacts is what should be added. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 18:34, March 24, 2013 (UTC)


All right, I won't, but I did see some Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim artifact pages on the Category: Artifacts page. Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 18:42, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm... thanks for telling me about those pages. The only pages that should be there are disambiguation or lore pages, like Auriel's Shield. All other artifacts should be under their games' artifacts pages. I'll look into that, though. Happy editing! Kroq-gar78 (talk) 18:45, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
All right, thank you, and happy editing to you as well!Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 18:47, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

AtmoransEdit

Please don't change Atmorans to Nedes. Nedes are not the same as Atmorans. Nedes are not from Atmora - its a common misconception. Thanks.

Jimeee (talk) 16:35, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Books Edit

Hey Prescott,

First of all, great job on the Dwemer articles.

The main reason I came here though is to ask you to italicize the names of books. It's a minor English grammar thing, but I really do feel it's nice sometimes to be able to differentiate between War of the First Council and War of the First Council. Now, while we're on the topic of the War, can you check in-game (if you can) if the book has the word "The" at the very beginning of the title? Right now, The War of the First Council redirects to War of the First Council, but I have a feeling that the former was the full title of the book. Thanks, and great work! :) Kroq-gar78 (talk) 18:41, April 20, 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for the compliment :); always glad to help out on this wiki. For your task, I'll get right on it to figure out the title of the book, which won't be so hard, as I noticed on this wiki that for each in-game book a page is made for, the locations of the book is listed. Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 18:51, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

Extra categories Edit

Hey Prescott,

Can you remove extra categories on articles? For example, on Ancient Technology, you added two categories that essentially mean the same thing, and something similar happened on Dwemer History and Culture. On both articles, you added one category that exists and one that does not. Can you please remove the category that does not? That'd be much appreciated. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 16:59, April 28, 2013 (UTC)


Well about that; it was more of an accident that it happened, because I added a second category that was not required, but yes, I will remove those unneeded categories. Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 17:08, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

One more thing. I just asked TombRaiser if I could make Category:Skyrim: Dwemer Artifacts, and she said I could. If you can, instead of adding Skyrim stuff to Category:Dwemer Artifacts, can you add it to the new one now (including articles where you've already added it to the latter). Thanks! Kroq-gar78 (talk) 18:00, April 28, 2013 (UTC)


That was a good idea; and I'll add the Dwemer articles which were added to Category: Dwemer Artifacts and add them to Category: Skyrim: Dwemer ArtifactsChairmanprescott6179 (talk) 21:46, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

References Edit

Hello again,

Can you add in-line citations instead of putting the books in a "Sources" section? An explanation of how to do so can be found here. Ask if you need any help ;) Kroq-gar78 (talk) 23:19, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Overlapping categories Edit

Hey Prescott,

I see you're adding overlapping categories again to a lot of articles. If I remember correctly, I've asked you before. The main thing this time is with Dwemer Artifacts and Skyrim: Dwemer Artifacts both being for the same article. If Skyrim: Dwemer Artifacts is already there, don't add Dwemer Artifacts unless the item is in a game that's not Morrowind, Oblivion, or Skyrim (these three have their own categories; Daggerfall, for example, doesn't). Kroq-gar78 (talk) 02:32, May 6, 2013 (UTC)


All right, I'll try not to overlap categories. Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 01:15, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Daedric ArtifactsEdit

Hello, I see you have been adding the Daedric Artifatcs category to the appropriate pages. The only thing is, that those pages already have the Morrowind: Daedric Artifacts category. May you please remove the over-arching categories you have put on the pages. Thank you.

Great job on the lore pages by the way, especially Dwemer! I can't wait until that can become a Featured Article.

AutoBlood (talk) 19:49, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I thought that since those two Daedric Artifacts articles did not have a title that indicated which specific game it was in, I thought that it was just supposed to be in the Daedric Artifacts category. Oh and thanks for the compliment, and I love to edit the lore articles on this wiki! And I sure hope that the Dwemer page can become a featured article! Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 20:05, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

I've seen your edits around a lot, and you seem to have a special interest in the Dwemer, which is probably one of the more obscure subjects in the Elder Scrolls. You are still keeping pages to a remarkable good standard though, well done! 

Also, Chairman Prescott.. Gears of War? ParanormalAndroid (talk) 15:38, May 12, 2013 (UTC)ParanormalAndroid


Thank you! But, yes I'm focusing on the Dwemer a lot because I wanted to focus on a specific article to make it the best that it can be, instead of editing a lot of different lore articles at once, because to me, the lore articles are the hardest to revamp/revise, edit and maintain. To me, I think that most of the articles related to the games, such as the game pages themselves and game item articles are the best articles on the wiki, and the members  have a good foothold on them. The lore articles on the other hand, are harder to edit and plus it looks like the members of the wiki usually focus on game articles rather than the lore articles, which is okay, though. So I'm probably going to be focusing on the lore articles until the Elder Scrolls Online comes out. And about my username, I originally made my account because I first wanted to edit articles on the Gears of War wikia; then I discovered the Elder Scrolls. Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 15:50, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

Creating new categoriesEdit

Hey Chairmanprescott, while we appreciate all your work with the Dwemer pages, could you please not create anymore new categories. There are already enough categories in place for these pages. There's no need to over do it with more categories. The introduction of new categories is something that should to be discussed and voted on in the Consensus Track forum to ensure if it's really a needed addition. Thanks. —TombRaiser SPEAK! 05:14, May 14, 2013 (UTC)

I'm a little late, but yeah I'll try. Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 18:49, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

Dark BrotherhoodEdit

Hi Chairmanprescott, sorry for the delayed response. I do think it's a good idea to have a lore page for Dark Brotherhood. As you mentioned there is already a lore page for the Blades. It would make sense to have a page that details the lore behind the Dark Brotherhood. I'm sure you know already, but still worth mentioning to add refs to lore pages. —TombRaiser SPEAK! 00:46, July 8, 2013 (UTC)


It's all right, it doesn't matter to me. But cool, sounds good, happy to help out here on the wiki. So for the Dark Brotherhood article, the article might be a short one in the beginning, because I'm still trying to find more info about the Dark Brotherhood through books, quests and other stuff.

Anyway, I have a couple of quick questions to ask you: on this wiki, I have noticed that with most in-game characters, their history is split between a background and interactions sections for them; is it for a specific reason? Also, why are in-game items split into different articles by game? Thanks Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 01:56, July 8, 2013 (UTC) 

I can answer your last question. Let's take, for example, Volendrung. It does different things in Morrowind and different things in Oblivion, so we decide to split the article into two (more, in this case). While the background is different, the way it fits into the individual games with their own mechanics are slightly different, and we don't want that information to become to intertwined. The history of the artifact would be in a separate lore article.
Now, TombRaiser, I'm wondering, should the new Dark Brotherhood lore article be made at The Dark Brotherhood or The Dark Brotherhood (Lore)? Also, yes, "the" is part of all the other Dark Brotherhood articles for the individual games (I don't like it). Kroq-gar78 (talk) 02:25, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
Interesting, I guess I understand why in-game things are split into different articles, but as for locations, do they same factors for in-game items apply to locations? To comment on your comment Kroq-gar78, I'd say the article should be called "The Dark Brotherhood (Lore)." The title should contain the "(Lore)" part to help identify what the article is, but I agree, "the" part of the article titles is not great. If (or when) the other titles for the Dark Brotherhood articles are changed to remove "the" part, I think the Dark Brotherhood lore article should contain the title that has the word "the." I don't know if you are busy or not, but I don't think this decision should be made by me, because I'm not an administrator. Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 16:53, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, the same thing applies for locations, since they have different uses in different games.
TombRaiser, should we rename the Dark Brotherhood articles? Kroq-gar78 (talk) 18:29, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
Honestly, I don't know why they are named "The Dark Brotherhood" on the wiki. It clearly says in subtitles in-game the Dark Brotherhood. So, I would vote for renaming them they way it appears in-game, and to also call the Lore page Dark Brotherhood (Lore). —TombRaiser SPEAK! 18:34, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
Ah, ok. Should I run this by the other admins or just go through with it? Kroq-gar78 (talk) 18:38, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
It's clearly Dark Brotherhood in the game, and also the "other site" has the correct wording. I would just go through with it, because it's a fact. —TombRaiser SPEAK! 18:43, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Forbidden LegendEdit

I understand you wanting to clean up after my unfinished edits to Forbidden Legends, but why did you restore the Folgunthur heading? I was trying to change the headings to match the quest steps, and in any case, where you put that heading back is actually in the middle of Folgunthur. I'm going to finish up my edits tonight - after I'm done, if you don't like the structure, please let me know what you would do differently. —This unsigned comment is by Cubears (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

I didn't really know about your editing of the Forbidden Legend page. All I was trying to do was to make the name of the headings the best way that I thought it could be, so I was not attempting to revert your edits. --Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 16:39, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Dwemer Edit

Hello,

Great job on Dwemer ;) I'm planning to nominate it for FA very soon (probably today), and I think that means I have to change the protection level from registered users to admins only. If you have anything else to add, you should probably do it as soon as possible. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 16:53, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment :) 
I just wish that a featured article does have to mean that the protection level could (or should) be changed from registered users to administrators only, but I'm good with the plan. I just have to add some more info to the history section and then I think I'm finished with adding info to the page. Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 22:25, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
I think you mean you hope that it does not have to be locked ;) The reason for locking it is to prevent degradation of the article's quality. Anyway, Jimeee will be going through the references and double checking them, and then we'll see about FA status. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 22:31, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
Yes thats what I mean, haha
And cool, sounds good; I sure hope it gets featured article status Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 23:40, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, good job - but just so you know, checking the page this isn't a small job and I have several concerns about the article. I feel there is speculation in places and the tone could be more encyclopedic. The size of the article is very large - and while that itself isn't a bad thing - there are some parts that aren't relevant to the subject of the race itself. There are some images on there from other wikis - that can't happen. Most importantly - the lore absolutely must be fact checked - each and every statement must be checked against the reference. If I find statements that are unsourced, I'll need to add a cite tag. Getting a lore page to featured article status is a much harder task that a regular game page because of the amount of fact checking that must be done. I'm not an expert of the Dwemer by any means, so this will take time. Jimeee (talk) 10:08, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
Sounds like a lot, so good luck on it, but let me know if you need any help. Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 22:32, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

MOTMEdit

Good job on getting MOTM. Earned it with that Dwemer page and the other lore articles, we really need alot of work with lore here. Hope to see you on the IRC sometime, Congratz ;D  G0LD3NF1RE Questions Goes Here 10:36, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Hey thanks for the compliment; I appreciate it :)
I'm not exactly in the loop with everything here, so can you tell me what the IRC is? Thanks Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 14:07, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
Congrats from me too :) IRC is basically just chat. You can click on the image in near the top-right of the home page to get into the room. You can read more on IRC here. Kroq-gar78 (talk) 18:17, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Kroq-gar78 :) and that sounds good; I hope to get on there sometime soon, but for now editing, haha Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 22:51, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Member of the MonthEdit

Congrats on MOTM! All the work you've done on Dwemer is amazing and hopefully soon it can become a Featured Article.

AutoBlood Talk 22:59, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

hey mate you have some really intresting edits really helped me out heaps

Thanks; I really appreciate the compliments :) and yeah that would be pretty cool if it were to become a featured article. Now that I've worked on the Dwemer page and cleaned it up a bit, you might see that the Snow Elf, Falmer and Ayleid articles are going to be like the Dwemer article, mostly cause I'm trying to work on lore articles on the wiki.Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 13:18, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

Black handEdit

Hey, congrats to MOTM. I also just want to let you know that there was already a black hand image uploaded. On this article you can see it... Black Hand, it is a god idea to look or search as several images of the same item/s then can be avoided. :) EbonySkyrim (talk) 14:15, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! :) so with the image of the Black Hand, I tried to search for that photo after seeing it on the article. When I went to edit the Dark Brotherhood (Lore) article, I had some trouble trying to search for the image after I pressed the photo icon on the "add features and media" tablet (in visual mode). So I tried to search for a photo of the Black Hand outside of the wiki, and I found one, which I downloaded. Then I somehow added a duplicate image to the article. Anyway, I'll try to make sure a duplicate image isn't added when I edit an article :) Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 16:04, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
Hey, you are doing it again. The image of Malada, have you downloaded TombRaisers image and uploaded it with anther name? I can see it's the same image. Same with the Ayleid Statue I have uploaded... Please do not do this. :) The carvings are also just uploaded, first by me in the actual letter and then by AutoBlood just yesterday and the wall from the ayleid ruin. EbonySkyrim (talk) 19:34, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

American english?Edit

Does Wikipedia and other Wiki's have a rule that all pages must be in American English?

Coza12 (talk) 07:49, August 11, 2013 (UTC)Coza12

I'm not sure exactly. You want me to find out? Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 07:52, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
Actually, there are pages in other languages. At the bottom of each page is a link to other translations. For example, http://ru.elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/%D0%9E_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8. Cubears (talk) 20:32, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
On this wiki it is American english. At the bottom of the pages are translated pages for other languages wikia EbonySkyrim (talk) 19:34, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

UESP content?Edit

Hey Chairman, you may want to take a look at something that has been brought up by a member of UESP. Please look here and respond with your side so this can be cleared up. Thanks. —TombRaiser SPEAK! 03:01, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Well, this is interesting. Considering that there are so many in-game books, lots of dialogue with in-game characters and some online sources, it would be very likely that I and UESP would happen to have the same info on lore pages, because there is actually a lot of info to choose from. At least thats what I think. I'll respond to that message so it can be cleared up.Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 03:11, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

UESP plagiarism. A warning.Edit

Following Minor Edits' post on my talk page, there is no doubt in my mind that you have indeed lifted and/or reworded sections of UESP articles. The evidence is overwhelming and certainly not coincidential. While I don't think everything you have written is copied, there is still the issue of the plagiarized sections on Dwemer and Ayleid pages that Minor Edits has pointed out. I have deleted these parts completely and discussed with the other admins on the next step.

We have decided to revoke your Member of the Month award. There is absolutely no way we can have a person who has knowingly plagiarized content hold the award. It sets a bad example to other users and is frankly embarassing to the entire site and its editors.

Secondly we have decided not to ban/punish you for this - but should anything like this ever happen again you certainly will be. No question. You should be aware that concerning your list of planned re-vamps on your profile page - any additions you make from now will be double checked against the corresponding uesp page by an admin. It will take considerable work on your part for you to be trusted again. Jimeee (talk) 18:16, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Many editsEdit

Hi there, can you please try and do as many edits in one go as possible. Right now you have 7 edits in just under 10 minutes.. and a total of 20ish today on the same article, Skyrim. Are you editing in visual mode? On some edits there are unwanted code added too which happens in when editing in visual mode. Thanks.. —EbonySkyrim Message! 22:58, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

The reason I made so many edits on that page was because I was trying to clean up the references. Then after I saved the edit, I realized it didn't work. I did use source mode to create the references and I have been trying to make as few edits as possible. Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 23:32, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

SkyrimEdit

Please try to keep your additions to the Skyrim page about the province itself and less about the Nordic people. Otherwise the Skyrim and Nord pages will begin to look very similar, which we don't want. I know it can be difficult as there is so much overlap between the two, but try. For example, your recent edit "The Ancient Nords, known as the Atmorans, built massive structures called Word Walls." is more relevant on the Nord page, and not on the page about the province.

Jimeee (talk) 13:16, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I know what you mean. I was actually thinking about adding a section to the page specifically about the Nords, but now that you say that the Skyrim and the Nord articles shouldn't be mixed, I'm not going to add it. But what about the info in the economy and religion sections? Is the info in those sections okay to be there?Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 20:01, November 14, 2013 (UTC)


Following up on this message, I'm planning to expand the Nord article and transfer some of the society and culture parts from the Skyrim article to the Nord article. Is that okay?Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 20:34, April 15, 2014 (UTC)

Dwemer TechnologyEdit

I really enjoyed reading the dwemer page mostly you created. And I didn't check if the author of the Technology bit was really you, but I'm guessing that you were. There are some mistakes made, I'd like to point out. (I didn't edit them out yet, you are free to do it yourself)

The very beginning of the Technology section speaks of automatons and how they have a soul gem inside. While the containment of a soul gem is a fact, it's purpose is just unconfirmed hypothesis, but is regarded as fact in the page.

The research notes, that this is all based on just mention that soul gem COULD heat the boiler, but then criticizes the same idea immediately afterwards. Same goes for the "source of the Destruction magic" that's your own conclusion based on few hints but no true evidence. The lightning you see might as well have a technological source, not a magical one.

It's good to have all this on the page, but it's should be pointed out, that all of this is just a hypothesis, not a fact. (Start the sentences with "It is believed" or "It is likely" etc.)

Ikabite (talk) 08:06, December 26, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry I'm so late on this reply. But thanks, I appreciate it. However, some, I don't know how many, but some of the users who are administrators on this wiki say that I did not write most of the Dwemer page, but that I plagiarized it from uesp. I can tell you that I did not plagiarize the work from uesp; I looked up the facts and wrote it myself. But hey, if you know about this, you can believe whoever or whatever you want; I really have no opinion of it.

For the Technology section, I didn't know the contents of the Research Notes was actually a hypothesis, I thought they were facts. I can fix those mistakes, which are probably in the Dwemer page too.Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 23:10, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

LoreEdit

Why are you removing the "Lore" category from pages? We need these cats for now to distinguish the lore pages. Jimeee (talk) 20:37, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

I was moving them to specific "lore" categories, such as Lore: Locations, Lore: Characters and Lore: Items.Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 22:51, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Re: SourcesEdit

I understand, but the category is not be used solely because the article needs cursory expansion. If all parts of the article are sourced by several books or ingame dialogue, it's better to have the sources list, instead of repeated references for all of the statements, as that can clog up the article. —Sky Above,Voice Within · Show thy Voice! 22:34, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

A list of sources is just a simple list, something that I think is pointless when there are no internal citations to verify sentences and paragraphs. I think that a list of sources can be useful, but occasionally not for the reader who is reading the article. I certainly think that if a reader would want to find a source for statements, they would want to find it faster and easier, instead of just looking at a list of sources and finding out where the information came from.

As for the policies for sourcing, I see that it states that this wiki mainly uses references, which I know now. The policy does not state whether to use one way or the other, which I don't think it should. However, if there was a list of sources and internal citations, would it make sense to have both? - Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 23:01, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

The ideal would be sourcing different statements with individual sources (if any) and use the references form, although short articles can live with the sources list, due to being short. I don't think all sources listed in the Tribunal Temple article say the same thing, so tracking down sentences in the sources and sourcing individual statements in the article may be necessary. Hope this helps. —Sky Above,Voice Within · Show thy Voice! 23:10, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
All right then. Thanks for the help.Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 01:27, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Aleyid Edit

Scott, I reverted your edit on the Ayleid page, as the intro was far too long on that page, and it didn't have a society section, so please don't remove that next time. Thanks. Zippertrain85 (talk) 04:31, March 4, 2014 (UTC)

The Ayleid page already had a society section under the culture section. I revised the formatting and merged the society section above the history section with the society section under the culture section. I also don't see why the introduction was too long.  Are introductions supposed to be short? And also, who is Scott?Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 17:14, March 4, 2014 (UTC)

They're not supposed to be too long, just a brief overview of the page topic, and the one on the Ayleid page gets off topic about the time the second Paragraph comes (off topic from being a brief description). That's why I changed it. Zippertrain85 (talk) 17:24, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
Okay, well, as of now, the introduction of the Ayleid page is one sentence long, and there are two society sections in the page as well. I'm going to add a little more, but not too much.Chairmanprescott6179 (talk) 22:49, March 4, 2014 (UTC)

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